<div dir="auto">I prefer the most narrow scope possible. Otherwise we will never finish. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Other people will work with n the other parts. </div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jun 18, 2023 at 4:00 PM Omri Gazitt via policy-charter <<a href="mailto:policy-charter@lists.openid.net">policy-charter@lists.openid.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">One thing I'd like to put out there...<div><br></div><div>In a world where both policy and data are important parts of a decision, we should consider expanding the scope of what we believe should be pushed from an administration point to a decision point. Specifically, with a ReBAC model (or a hybrid policy-as-code / policy-as-data model), changes in relationships between subjects and objects are as critical to communicate as policy changes. </div><div><br></div><div>If folks agree, then perhaps the name of the workstream should be generalized to "PAP-PDP group". </div><div><br></div><div>Additionally, there are two possible models to consider - Pull and Push. For example, OPA defines a <a href="https://www.openpolicyagent.org/docs/latest/management-bundles/" target="_blank">pull model</a> for a PDP to obtain policy updates from a policy bundle service. In practice, a push model seems critical for real-world scenarios.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jun 18, 2023 at 2:54 PM Roland Baum via policy-charter <<a href="mailto:policy-charter@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">policy-charter@lists.openid.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div dir="auto">Me too</div>
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<div dir="auto">Count me in too</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi all -
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<div>Thanks to Andrew Hughes for leading
the PEP-PDP Group and those that have
expressed interest in pursuing that
effort.</div>
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<div>How about the Admin Policy Push
work stream? Who is interested in
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