From steve.venema at forgerock.com  Tue Jul 11 20:53:59 2023
From: steve.venema at forgerock.com (Steve Venema)
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2023 14:53:59 -0600
Subject: [policy-charter] Authorization API Proposal
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Hi Atul,

Can you add me to the repo as a collaborator? github username: "scvenema"

Thanks!
-Steve
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On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 4:35?PM Omri Gazitt via policy-charter <
policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote:

> Added my comments to the issues Alex opened (thanks!) and also put in a
> couple of PRs on things that I hope are not controversial.
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 2:42?PM Omri Gazitt <omri at aserto.com> wrote:
>
>> ogazitt
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 9:50?AM Atul Tulshibagwale <atul at sgnl.ai> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Omri,
>>> Thanks for your feedback here. I think GitHub issues are a good way to
>>> provide feedback. I'll be happy to add you as a collaborator in the repo
>>> (and anyone else who would like to collaborate in updating / editing the
>>> draft). Please send me your GitHub ID.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Atul
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 27, 2023 at 10:47?PM Omri Gazitt <omri at aserto.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Atul - it's clear you and the SGNL team put some thought into
>>>> this.
>>>>
>>>> I'm still looking through this but I like that you're specifying both a
>>>> "check" function (Access Evaluation) and an "expand" function (Search
>>>> API).  Both are important, but perhaps only the Access Evaluation API ought
>>>> to be required.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure what is the best way to provide feedback. Github issues?
>>>> PRs? put it in a google doc and use comments?
>>>>
>>>> Here are some thoughts (sorry, no particular order):
>>>>
>>>> > Policy Distribution Point
>>>> Nit - this should be "Policy Decision Point" (which you name correctly
>>>> in other places in the doc)
>>>>
>>>> > The Authorization API is itself authorized using OAuth 2.0 ([RFC6749
>>>> <https://sgnl-ai.github.io/authzapi/#RFC6749>])
>>>> I think this is overspecified. I can certainly see clients that call
>>>> an Authorization API using an API key.
>>>>
>>>> > Terminology
>>>> A bit of a quibble, but perhaps we tip the hat to XACML and use the
>>>> terms "subject" and "resource" instead of "principal" and "asset". I'm not
>>>> religious about these terms, but "asset" in particular seems less common
>>>> than "object" or "resource".
>>>>
>>>> > Principals
>>>> In many systems, subjects will be extracted from a JWT "sub" claim,
>>>> which is a string. I'm not sure that specifying that this must be a JSON
>>>> structure, and further specifying two optional fields (ipAddress and
>>>> deviceId) is necessary, and feels overspecified.
>>>>
>>>> > Assets
>>>> Having a type and id makes sense, but could these be specified in a
>>>> single string?  For example, zanzibar defines these as type:id
>>>>
>>>> I do like having the ability to pass in properties in addition to the
>>>> object identifier - but it seems like this should be a json object
>>>> (key:value pairs), not just an array of attribute names.
>>>>
>>>> > Actions
>>>> It's not clear to me that separating actions into "standard" and
>>>> "custom" is useful. I think the types of actions you list (CRUD) are common
>>>> examples but should not be normative.
>>>>
>>>> I do think it's possible to use the generic concept of "Action" to
>>>> encompass permissions and relations.
>>>>
>>>> > Queries (as array)
>>>> I think that allowing a set of decisions to be requested at once is
>>>> valuable, but IMO the spec should not mandate that implementations must
>>>> support more than one query at a time. Some PDPs don't support that
>>>> semantic and it should be considered optional.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jun 27, 2023 at 4:38?PM Atul Tulshibagwale via policy-charter <
>>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's a proposal of an Authorization API that we would like to
>>>>> contribute to this group (in its current form or if / when we find a home
>>>>> in a standards body). This is similar to at least a few vendors' current
>>>>> offerings, so I hope everyone finds this helpful, and we can accelerate our
>>>>> standardization efforts as a result.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can read the proposal in HTML format here:
>>>>> https://sgnl-ai.github.io/authzapi/
>>>>>
>>>>> The sources (under the MIT License) are here:
>>>>> https://github.com/SGNL-ai/authzapi
>>>>>
>>>>> - Atul Tulshibagwale, Erik Gustavson and Marc Jordan
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://sgnl.ai>
>>>>>
>>>>> Atul Tulshibagwale
>>>>>
>>>>> CTO
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://linkedin.com/in/tulshi> <https://twitter.com/zirotrust>
>>>>> <atul at sgnl.ai>
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From gerry at strata.io  Thu Jul 13 00:38:32 2023
From: gerry at strata.io (Gerry Gebel)
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2023 17:38:32 -0700
Subject: [policy-charter] Zoom call for Admin Policy Push group
Message-ID: <CAFffDHiNuGOgVKtpStuSysxpYD21obRC16rL62E1WnThaTO14Q@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

Allan and I were thinking that a zoom call could be productive to address a
few topics, such as:

- Scope
- Renaming this group
- Review of current work
- Thinking about IIW
- Charter

We'd like to have this call before the end of the month, so how about:
- July 19 at 8am PT / 17:00 CET

- July 27 at 8am PT / 17:00 CET

Cheers,
Gerry
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From allan at macguru.com  Thu Jul 13 01:34:59 2023
From: allan at macguru.com (Allan Foster)
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2023 18:34:59 -0700
Subject: [policy-charter] Zoom call for Admin Policy Push group
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I am good with either

Allan

> On Wednesday, Jul 12, 2023 at 17:38, Gerry Gebel via policy-charter <policy-charter at lists.openid.net (mailto:policy-charter at lists.openid.net)> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Allan and I were thinking that a zoom call could be productive to address a few topics, such as:
>
> - Scope
> - Renaming this group
> - Review of current work
> - Thinking about IIW
> - Charter
>
> We'd like to have this call before the end of the month, so how about:
> - July 19 at 8am PT / 17:00 CET
>
> - July 27 at 8am PT / 17:00 CET
>
> Cheers,
> Gerry
>
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From david.brossard at gmail.com  Thu Jul 13 06:10:51 2023
From: david.brossard at gmail.com (David Brossard)
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2023 23:10:51 -0700
Subject: [policy-charter] Zoom call for Admin Policy Push group
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Likewise

On Wed, Jul 12, 2023, 6:35 PM Allan Foster via policy-charter <
policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote:

> I am good with either
>
> Allan
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, Jul 12, 2023 at 17:38, Gerry Gebel via policy-charter <
> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Allan and I were thinking that a zoom call could be productive to address
> a few topics, such as:
>
> - Scope
> - Renaming this group
> - Review of current work
> - Thinking about IIW
> - Charter
>
> We'd like to have this call before the end of the month, so how about:
> - July 19 at 8am PT / 17:00 CET
>
> - July 27 at 8am PT / 17:00 CET
>
> Cheers,
> Gerry
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From vittorio.bertocci at okta.com  Thu Jul 13 06:13:51 2023
From: vittorio.bertocci at okta.com (Vittorio Bertocci)
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2023 23:13:51 -0700
Subject: [policy-charter] Zoom call for Admin Policy Push group
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27th works better for me

On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 23:12 David Brossard via policy-charter <
policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote:

> *This message originated outside your organization.*
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Likewise
>
> On Wed, Jul 12, 2023, 6:35 PM Allan Foster via policy-charter <
> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote:
>
>> I am good with either
>>
>> Allan
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, Jul 12, 2023 at 17:38, Gerry Gebel via policy-charter <
>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Allan and I were thinking that a zoom call could be productive to address
>> a few topics, such as:
>>
>> - Scope
>> - Renaming this group
>> - Review of current work
>> - Thinking about IIW
>> - Charter
>>
>> We'd like to have this call before the end of the month, so how about:
>> - July 19 at 8am PT / 17:00 CET
>>
>> - July 27 at 8am PT / 17:00 CET
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Gerry
>> --
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From omri at aserto.com  Thu Jul 13 06:35:07 2023
From: omri at aserto.com (Omri Gazitt)
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2023 23:35:07 -0700
Subject: [policy-charter] Zoom call for Admin Policy Push group
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Either one works for me.

On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 11:14 PM Vittorio Bertocci via policy-charter <
policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote:

> 27th works better for me
>
> On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 23:12 David Brossard via policy-charter <
> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote:
>
>> *This message originated outside your organization.*
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Likewise
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 12, 2023, 6:35 PM Allan Foster via policy-charter <
>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I am good with either
>>>
>>> Allan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, Jul 12, 2023 at 17:38, Gerry Gebel via policy-charter <
>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Allan and I were thinking that a zoom call could be productive to
>>> address a few topics, such as:
>>>
>>> - Scope
>>> - Renaming this group
>>> - Review of current work
>>> - Thinking about IIW
>>> - Charter
>>>
>>> We'd like to have this call before the end of the month, so how about:
>>> - July 19 at 8am PT / 17:00 CET
>>>
>>> - July 27 at 8am PT / 17:00 CET
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Gerry
>>> --
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>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net
>>> https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter
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>>>
>>> --
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From mike.kiser at sailpoint.com  Thu Jul 13 06:16:14 2023
From: mike.kiser at sailpoint.com (Mike Kiser)
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2023 06:16:14 +0000
Subject: [policy-charter] Zoom call for Admin Policy Push group
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I can do either. . .

-Mike
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Subject: [policy-charter] Zoom call for Admin Policy Push group

Hi all, Allan and I were thinking that a zoom call could be productive to address a few topics, such as: - Scope - Renaming this group - Review of current work - Thinking about IIW - Charter We'd like to have this call before the end of
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Allan and I were thinking that a zoom call could be productive to address a few topics, such as:

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- Renaming this group
- Review of current work
- Thinking about IIW
- Charter

We'd like to have this call before the end of the month, so how about:
- July 19 at 8am PT / 17:00 CET

- July 27 at 8am PT / 17:00 CET

Cheers,
Gerry
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From pieter.kasselman at microsoft.com  Thu Jul 13 10:27:38 2023
From: pieter.kasselman at microsoft.com (Pieter Kasselman)
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2023 10:27:38 +0000
Subject: [policy-charter] Zoom call for Admin Policy Push group
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July 19'th works better for me. 27'th clashes with IETF (although 8AM is early enough to do before the meetings start).

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I can do either. . .

-Mike
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Subject: [policy-charter] Zoom call for Admin Policy Push group

Hi all, Allan and I were thinking that a zoom call could be productive to address a few topics, such as: - Scope - Renaming this group - Review of current work - Thinking about IIW - Charter We'd like to have this call before the end of
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- Review of current work
- Thinking about IIW
- Charter

We'd like to have this call before the end of the month, so how about:
- July 19 at 8am PT / 17:00 CET

- July 27 at 8am PT / 17:00 CET

Cheers,
Gerry
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From sehutchinson at gmail.com  Thu Jul 13 13:02:03 2023
From: sehutchinson at gmail.com (Steve Hutchinson)
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2023 09:02:03 -0400
Subject: [policy-charter] Zoom call for Admin Policy Push group
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Either works for me

On Thu, Jul 13, 2023, 6:27 AM Pieter Kasselman via policy-charter <
policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote:

> July 19?th works better for me. 27?th clashes with IETF (although 8AM is
> early enough to do before the meetings start).
>
>
>
> *From:* policy-charter <policy-charter-bounces at lists.openid.net> *On
> Behalf Of *Mike Kiser via policy-charter
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 13, 2023 7:16 AM
> *To:* Policy Charter Mail List <policy-charter at lists.openid.net>
> *Cc:* Mike Kiser <mike.kiser at sailpoint.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [policy-charter] Zoom call for Admin Policy Push group
>
>
>
> I can do either. . .
>
>
>
> -Mike
> ------------------------------
>
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> behalf of Gerry Gebel via policy-charter <policy-charter at lists.openid.net>
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 13, 2023 2:38:32 AM
> *To:* Policy Charter Mail List <policy-charter at lists.openid.net>
> *Cc:* Gerry Gebel <gerry at strata.io>
> *Subject:* [policy-charter] Zoom call for Admin Policy Push group
>
>
>
> Hi all, Allan and I were thinking that a zoom call could be productive to
> address a few topics, such as: - Scope - Renaming this group - Review of
> current work - Thinking about IIW - Charter We'd like to have this call
> before the end of
>
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> Hi all,
>
>
>
> Allan and I were thinking that a zoom call could be productive to address
> a few topics, such as:
>
>
>
> - Scope
>
> - Renaming this group
>
> - Review of current work
>
> - Thinking about IIW
>
> - Charter
>
>
>
> We'd like to have this call before the end of the month, so how about:
>
> - July 19 at 8am PT / 17:00 CET
>
>
>
> - July 27 at 8am PT / 17:00 CET
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Gerry
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From andrewhughes at pingidentity.com  Thu Jul 13 13:43:08 2023
From: andrewhughes at pingidentity.com (Andrew Hughes)
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2023 06:43:08 -0700
Subject: [policy-charter] Zoom call for Admin Policy Push group
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both ok - I'm on Japan time for ISO meetings so it's a bit anti-social :-)
but hey - the glamorous life etc etc

Andrew Hughes
Director - Identity Standards
andrewhughes at pingidentity.com
Mobile/Signal: +1 250 888 9474



On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 6:02?AM Steve Hutchinson via policy-charter <
policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote:

> Either works for me
>
> On Thu, Jul 13, 2023, 6:27 AM Pieter Kasselman via policy-charter <
> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote:
>
>> July 19?th works better for me. 27?th clashes with IETF (although 8AM is
>> early enough to do before the meetings start).
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* policy-charter <policy-charter-bounces at lists.openid.net> *On
>> Behalf Of *Mike Kiser via policy-charter
>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 13, 2023 7:16 AM
>> *To:* Policy Charter Mail List <policy-charter at lists.openid.net>
>> *Cc:* Mike Kiser <mike.kiser at sailpoint.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [policy-charter] Zoom call for Admin Policy Push group
>>
>>
>>
>> I can do either. . .
>>
>>
>>
>> -Mike
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* policy-charter <policy-charter-bounces at lists.openid.net> on
>> behalf of Gerry Gebel via policy-charter <policy-charter at lists.openid.net
>> >
>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 13, 2023 2:38:32 AM
>> *To:* Policy Charter Mail List <policy-charter at lists.openid.net>
>> *Cc:* Gerry Gebel <gerry at strata.io>
>> *Subject:* [policy-charter] Zoom call for Admin Policy Push group
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi all, Allan and I were thinking that a zoom call could be productive to
>> address a few topics, such as: - Scope - Renaming this group - Review of
>> current work - Thinking about IIW - Charter We'd like to have this call
>> before the end of
>>
>> ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart
>>
>> *This Message Is From an External Sender *
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>> ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerEnd
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>> Hi all,
>>
>>
>>
>> Allan and I were thinking that a zoom call could be productive to address
>> a few topics, such as:
>>
>>
>>
>> - Scope
>>
>> - Renaming this group
>>
>> - Review of current work
>>
>> - Thinking about IIW
>>
>> - Charter
>>
>>
>>
>> We'd like to have this call before the end of the month, so how about:
>>
>> - July 19 at 8am PT / 17:00 CET
>>
>>
>>
>> - July 27 at 8am PT / 17:00 CET
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Gerry
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From alex at 3edges.com  Thu Jul 13 14:28:02 2023
From: alex at 3edges.com (Alex Babeanu)
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2023 07:28:02 -0700
Subject: [policy-charter] Zoom call for Admin Policy Push group
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19th on my end, I can't on the 27th.

Thanks,

./\.

On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 6:43?AM Andrew Hughes via policy-charter <
policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote:

> both ok - I'm on Japan time for ISO meetings so it's a bit anti-social :-)
> but hey - the glamorous life etc etc
>
> Andrew Hughes
> Director - Identity Standards
> andrewhughes at pingidentity.com
> Mobile/Signal: +1 250 888 9474
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 6:02?AM Steve Hutchinson via policy-charter <
> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote:
>
>> Either works for me
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2023, 6:27 AM Pieter Kasselman via policy-charter <
>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote:
>>
>>> July 19?th works better for me. 27?th clashes with IETF (although 8AM is
>>> early enough to do before the meetings start).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* policy-charter <policy-charter-bounces at lists.openid.net> *On
>>> Behalf Of *Mike Kiser via policy-charter
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 13, 2023 7:16 AM
>>> *To:* Policy Charter Mail List <policy-charter at lists.openid.net>
>>> *Cc:* Mike Kiser <mike.kiser at sailpoint.com>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [policy-charter] Zoom call for Admin Policy Push group
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I can do either. . .
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Mike
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> *From:* policy-charter <policy-charter-bounces at lists.openid.net> on
>>> behalf of Gerry Gebel via policy-charter <
>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net>
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 13, 2023 2:38:32 AM
>>> *To:* Policy Charter Mail List <policy-charter at lists.openid.net>
>>> *Cc:* Gerry Gebel <gerry at strata.io>
>>> *Subject:* [policy-charter] Zoom call for Admin Policy Push group
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi all, Allan and I were thinking that a zoom call could be productive
>>> to address a few topics, such as: - Scope - Renaming this group - Review of
>>> current work - Thinking about IIW - Charter We'd like to have this call
>>> before the end of
>>>
>>> ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart
>>>
>>> *This Message Is From an External Sender *
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>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Allan and I were thinking that a zoom call could be productive to
>>> address a few topics, such as:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - Scope
>>>
>>> - Renaming this group
>>>
>>> - Review of current work
>>>
>>> - Thinking about IIW
>>>
>>> - Charter
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We'd like to have this call before the end of the month, so how about:
>>>
>>> - July 19 at 8am PT / 17:00 CET
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - July 27 at 8am PT / 17:00 CET
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Gerry
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From steve.venema at forgerock.com  Thu Jul 13 15:05:13 2023
From: steve.venema at forgerock.com (Steve Venema)
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2023 09:05:13 -0600
Subject: [policy-charter] Zoom call for Admin Policy Push group
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I'm fine with either option.

-Steve
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On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 8:28?AM Alex Babeanu via policy-charter <
policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote:

> 19th on my end, I can't on the 27th.
>
> Thanks,
>
> ./\.
>
> On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 6:43?AM Andrew Hughes via policy-charter <
> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote:
>
>> both ok - I'm on Japan time for ISO meetings so it's a bit anti-social
>> :-) but hey - the glamorous life etc etc
>>
>> Andrew Hughes
>> Director - Identity Standards
>> andrewhughes at pingidentity.com
>> Mobile/Signal: +1 250 888 9474
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 6:02?AM Steve Hutchinson via policy-charter <
>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Either works for me
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2023, 6:27 AM Pieter Kasselman via policy-charter <
>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> July 19?th works better for me. 27?th clashes with IETF (although 8AM
>>>> is early enough to do before the meetings start).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* policy-charter <policy-charter-bounces at lists.openid.net> *On
>>>> Behalf Of *Mike Kiser via policy-charter
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 13, 2023 7:16 AM
>>>> *To:* Policy Charter Mail List <policy-charter at lists.openid.net>
>>>> *Cc:* Mike Kiser <mike.kiser at sailpoint.com>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [policy-charter] Zoom call for Admin Policy Push group
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I can do either. . .
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Mike
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> *From:* policy-charter <policy-charter-bounces at lists.openid.net> on
>>>> behalf of Gerry Gebel via policy-charter <
>>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net>
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 13, 2023 2:38:32 AM
>>>> *To:* Policy Charter Mail List <policy-charter at lists.openid.net>
>>>> *Cc:* Gerry Gebel <gerry at strata.io>
>>>> *Subject:* [policy-charter] Zoom call for Admin Policy Push group
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi all, Allan and I were thinking that a zoom call could be productive
>>>> to address a few topics, such as: - Scope - Renaming this group - Review of
>>>> current work - Thinking about IIW - Charter We'd like to have this call
>>>> before the end of
>>>>
>>>> ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart
>>>>
>>>> *This Message Is From an External Sender *
>>>>
>>>> This message came from outside your organization.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerEnd
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Allan and I were thinking that a zoom call could be productive to
>>>> address a few topics, such as:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> - Scope
>>>>
>>>> - Renaming this group
>>>>
>>>> - Review of current work
>>>>
>>>> - Thinking about IIW
>>>>
>>>> - Charter
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We'd like to have this call before the end of the month, so how about:
>>>>
>>>> - July 19 at 8am PT / 17:00 CET
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> - July 27 at 8am PT / 17:00 CET
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Gerry
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From gerry at strata.io  Thu Jul 13 15:19:41 2023
From: gerry at strata.io (Gerry Gebel)
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2023 08:19:41 -0700
Subject: [policy-charter] Zoom call for Admin Policy Push group
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Thanks all for your responses, it looks like the 27th wins

I'll send a calendar invite to you and list the zoom info here for anyone
else who cares to join.

https://us06web.zoom.us/j/4284593682

-Gerry

On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 8:05?AM Steve Venema via policy-charter <
policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote:

> I'm fine with either option.
>
> -Steve
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> On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 8:28?AM Alex Babeanu via policy-charter <
> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote:
>
>> 19th on my end, I can't on the 27th.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> ./\.
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 6:43?AM Andrew Hughes via policy-charter <
>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote:
>>
>>> both ok - I'm on Japan time for ISO meetings so it's a bit anti-social
>>> :-) but hey - the glamorous life etc etc
>>>
>>> Andrew Hughes
>>> Director - Identity Standards
>>> andrewhughes at pingidentity.com
>>> Mobile/Signal: +1 250 888 9474
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 6:02?AM Steve Hutchinson via policy-charter <
>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Either works for me
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2023, 6:27 AM Pieter Kasselman via policy-charter <
>>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> July 19?th works better for me. 27?th clashes with IETF (although 8AM
>>>>> is early enough to do before the meetings start).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* policy-charter <policy-charter-bounces at lists.openid.net> *On
>>>>> Behalf Of *Mike Kiser via policy-charter
>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 13, 2023 7:16 AM
>>>>> *To:* Policy Charter Mail List <policy-charter at lists.openid.net>
>>>>> *Cc:* Mike Kiser <mike.kiser at sailpoint.com>
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [policy-charter] Zoom call for Admin Policy Push group
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I can do either. . .
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -Mike
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* policy-charter <policy-charter-bounces at lists.openid.net> on
>>>>> behalf of Gerry Gebel via policy-charter <
>>>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net>
>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 13, 2023 2:38:32 AM
>>>>> *To:* Policy Charter Mail List <policy-charter at lists.openid.net>
>>>>> *Cc:* Gerry Gebel <gerry at strata.io>
>>>>> *Subject:* [policy-charter] Zoom call for Admin Policy Push group
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all, Allan and I were thinking that a zoom call could be productive
>>>>> to address a few topics, such as: - Scope - Renaming this group - Review of
>>>>> current work - Thinking about IIW - Charter We'd like to have this call
>>>>> before the end of
>>>>>
>>>>> ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart
>>>>>
>>>>> *This Message Is From an External Sender *
>>>>>
>>>>> This message came from outside your organization.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerEnd
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Allan and I were thinking that a zoom call could be productive to
>>>>> address a few topics, such as:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> - Scope
>>>>>
>>>>> - Renaming this group
>>>>>
>>>>> - Review of current work
>>>>>
>>>>> - Thinking about IIW
>>>>>
>>>>> - Charter
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We'd like to have this call before the end of the month, so how about:
>>>>>
>>>>> - July 19 at 8am PT / 17:00 CET
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> - July 27 at 8am PT / 17:00 CET
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Gerry
>>>>> --
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>>>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net
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From alex at 3edges.com  Thu Jul 13 15:27:30 2023
From: alex at 3edges.com (Alex Babeanu)
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2023 08:27:30 -0700
Subject: [policy-charter] Zoom call for Admin Policy Push group
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mmm really? It seemed like the 19ths worked better, no? Pieter and myself
can't do 27th.
@Vittorio Bertocci <vittorio.bertocci at okta.com> you say 27th works better
for you, but can you make the 19th work at all?
Everybody else seems to say either day works, or did I miss smthg?

Cheers,

./\.


On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 8:20?AM Gerry Gebel via policy-charter <
policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote:

> Thanks all for your responses, it looks like the 27th wins
>
> I'll send a calendar invite to you and list the zoom info here for anyone
> else who cares to join.
>
> https://us06web.zoom.us/j/4284593682
>
> -Gerry
>
> On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 8:05?AM Steve Venema via policy-charter <
> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote:
>
>> I'm fine with either option.
>>
>> -Steve
>> --
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>> Distinguished Engineer  |  ForgeRock
>> *t* +1 (425) 825-0855  |  *e* steve.venema at forgerock.com
>> *web* www.forgerock.com
>> ------------------------------
>> ForgeRock values your *privacy* <https://www.forgerock.com/your-privacy>.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 8:28?AM Alex Babeanu via policy-charter <
>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote:
>>
>>> 19th on my end, I can't on the 27th.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> ./\.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 6:43?AM Andrew Hughes via policy-charter <
>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> both ok - I'm on Japan time for ISO meetings so it's a bit anti-social
>>>> :-) but hey - the glamorous life etc etc
>>>>
>>>> Andrew Hughes
>>>> Director - Identity Standards
>>>> andrewhughes at pingidentity.com
>>>> Mobile/Signal: +1 250 888 9474
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 6:02?AM Steve Hutchinson via policy-charter <
>>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Either works for me
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2023, 6:27 AM Pieter Kasselman via policy-charter <
>>>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> July 19?th works better for me. 27?th clashes with IETF (although 8AM
>>>>>> is early enough to do before the meetings start).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* policy-charter <policy-charter-bounces at lists.openid.net> *On
>>>>>> Behalf Of *Mike Kiser via policy-charter
>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 13, 2023 7:16 AM
>>>>>> *To:* Policy Charter Mail List <policy-charter at lists.openid.net>
>>>>>> *Cc:* Mike Kiser <mike.kiser at sailpoint.com>
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [policy-charter] Zoom call for Admin Policy Push group
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can do either. . .
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Mike
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* policy-charter <policy-charter-bounces at lists.openid.net> on
>>>>>> behalf of Gerry Gebel via policy-charter <
>>>>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net>
>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 13, 2023 2:38:32 AM
>>>>>> *To:* Policy Charter Mail List <policy-charter at lists.openid.net>
>>>>>> *Cc:* Gerry Gebel <gerry at strata.io>
>>>>>> *Subject:* [policy-charter] Zoom call for Admin Policy Push group
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all, Allan and I were thinking that a zoom call could be
>>>>>> productive to address a few topics, such as: - Scope - Renaming this group
>>>>>> - Review of current work - Thinking about IIW - Charter We'd like to have
>>>>>> this call before the end of
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *This Message Is From an External Sender *
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This message came from outside your organization.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerEnd
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Allan and I were thinking that a zoom call could be productive to
>>>>>> address a few topics, such as:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Scope
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Renaming this group
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Review of current work
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Thinking about IIW
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Charter
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We'd like to have this call before the end of the month, so how about:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - July 19 at 8am PT / 17:00 CET
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - July 27 at 8am PT / 17:00 CET
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gerry
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From vittorio.bertocci at okta.com  Thu Jul 13 15:31:14 2023
From: vittorio.bertocci at okta.com (Vittorio Bertocci)
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2023 08:31:14 -0700
Subject: [policy-charter] Zoom call for Admin Policy Push group
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On the 19th I have a healt-related unmovable conflict.
If you guys need to meet on the 19th I?ll have to skip.

On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 08:27 Alex Babeanu <alex at 3edges.com> wrote:

> *This message originated outside your organization.*
>
> ------------------------------
>
> mmm really? It seemed like the 19ths worked better, no? Pieter and myself
> can't do 27th.
> @Vittorio Bertocci <vittorio.bertocci at okta.com> you say 27th works better
> for you, but can you make the 19th work at all?
> Everybody else seems to say either day works, or did I miss smthg?
>
> Cheers,
>
> ./\.
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 8:20?AM Gerry Gebel via policy-charter <
> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote:
>
>> Thanks all for your responses, it looks like the 27th wins
>>
>> I'll send a calendar invite to you and list the zoom info here for anyone
>> else who cares to join.
>>
>> https://us06web.zoom.us/j/4284593682
>>
>> -Gerry
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 8:05?AM Steve Venema via policy-charter <
>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm fine with either option.
>>>
>>> -Steve
>>> --
>>> [image: ForgeRock]
>>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.forgerock.com/__;!!PwKahg!7t5hxBVr_QiVEJvfTwRaKgRmv2gto0WFVPL1Giojbi6vsjN59YEUlhNSLeUj6m-6cWiKPm9uyiKVnv_j8w$> *Steve
>>> Venema*
>>> Distinguished Engineer  |  ForgeRock
>>> *t* +1 (425) 825-0855  |  *e* steve.venema at forgerock.com
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>>> .
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 8:28?AM Alex Babeanu via policy-charter <
>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> 19th on my end, I can't on the 27th.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> ./\.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 6:43?AM Andrew Hughes via policy-charter <
>>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> both ok - I'm on Japan time for ISO meetings so it's a bit anti-social
>>>>> :-) but hey - the glamorous life etc etc
>>>>>
>>>>> Andrew Hughes
>>>>> Director - Identity Standards
>>>>> andrewhughes at pingidentity.com
>>>>> Mobile/Signal: +1 250 888 9474
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 6:02?AM Steve Hutchinson via policy-charter <
>>>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Either works for me
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2023, 6:27 AM Pieter Kasselman via policy-charter <
>>>>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> July 19?th works better for me. 27?th clashes with IETF (although
>>>>>>> 8AM is early enough to do before the meetings start).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* policy-charter <policy-charter-bounces at lists.openid.net> *On
>>>>>>> Behalf Of *Mike Kiser via policy-charter
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 13, 2023 7:16 AM
>>>>>>> *To:* Policy Charter Mail List <policy-charter at lists.openid.net>
>>>>>>> *Cc:* Mike Kiser <mike.kiser at sailpoint.com>
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [policy-charter] Zoom call for Admin Policy Push
>>>>>>> group
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can do either. . .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Mike
>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* policy-charter <policy-charter-bounces at lists.openid.net> on
>>>>>>> behalf of Gerry Gebel via policy-charter <
>>>>>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net>
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 13, 2023 2:38:32 AM
>>>>>>> *To:* Policy Charter Mail List <policy-charter at lists.openid.net>
>>>>>>> *Cc:* Gerry Gebel <gerry at strata.io>
>>>>>>> *Subject:* [policy-charter] Zoom call for Admin Policy Push group
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all, Allan and I were thinking that a zoom call could be
>>>>>>> productive to address a few topics, such as: - Scope - Renaming this group
>>>>>>> - Review of current work - Thinking about IIW - Charter We'd like to have
>>>>>>> this call before the end of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *This Message Is From an External Sender *
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This message came from outside your organization.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerEnd
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Allan and I were thinking that a zoom call could be productive to
>>>>>>> address a few topics, such as:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Scope
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Renaming this group
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Review of current work
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Thinking about IIW
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Charter
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We'd like to have this call before the end of the month, so how
>>>>>>> about:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - July 19 at 8am PT / 17:00 CET
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - July 27 at 8am PT / 17:00 CET
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gerry
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From gerry at strata.io  Thu Jul 13 15:33:50 2023
From: gerry at strata.io (Gerry Gebel)
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2023 08:33:50 -0700
Subject: [policy-charter] Zoom call for Admin Policy Push group
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@alex at babeanu.com <alex at babeanu.com> You are the only one who can't make it
on the 27th... Pieter says he could make it work before IETF stuff starts

We will publish notes and I can have a 1:1 call with you afterwards

-Gerry

On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 8:31?AM Vittorio Bertocci <
vittorio.bertocci at okta.com> wrote:

> On the 19th I have a healt-related unmovable conflict.
> If you guys need to meet on the 19th I?ll have to skip.
>
> On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 08:27 Alex Babeanu <alex at 3edges.com> wrote:
>
>> *This message originated outside your organization.*
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> mmm really? It seemed like the 19ths worked better, no? Pieter and myself
>> can't do 27th.
>> @Vittorio Bertocci <vittorio.bertocci at okta.com> you say 27th works
>> better for you, but can you make the 19th work at all?
>> Everybody else seems to say either day works, or did I miss smthg?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> ./\.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 8:20?AM Gerry Gebel via policy-charter <
>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks all for your responses, it looks like the 27th wins
>>>
>>> I'll send a calendar invite to you and list the zoom info here for
>>> anyone else who cares to join.
>>>
>>> https://us06web.zoom.us/j/4284593682
>>>
>>> -Gerry
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 8:05?AM Steve Venema via policy-charter <
>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm fine with either option.
>>>>
>>>> -Steve
>>>> --
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>>>> Venema*
>>>> Distinguished Engineer  |  ForgeRock
>>>> *t* +1 (425) 825-0855  |  *e* steve.venema at forgerock.com
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>>>> .
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 8:28?AM Alex Babeanu via policy-charter <
>>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 19th on my end, I can't on the 27th.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> ./\.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 6:43?AM Andrew Hughes via policy-charter <
>>>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> both ok - I'm on Japan time for ISO meetings so it's a bit
>>>>>> anti-social :-) but hey - the glamorous life etc etc
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Andrew Hughes
>>>>>> Director - Identity Standards
>>>>>> andrewhughes at pingidentity.com
>>>>>> Mobile/Signal: +1 250 888 9474
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 6:02?AM Steve Hutchinson via policy-charter <
>>>>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Either works for me
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2023, 6:27 AM Pieter Kasselman via policy-charter <
>>>>>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> July 19?th works better for me. 27?th clashes with IETF (although
>>>>>>>> 8AM is early enough to do before the meetings start).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *From:* policy-charter <policy-charter-bounces at lists.openid.net> *On
>>>>>>>> Behalf Of *Mike Kiser via policy-charter
>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 13, 2023 7:16 AM
>>>>>>>> *To:* Policy Charter Mail List <policy-charter at lists.openid.net>
>>>>>>>> *Cc:* Mike Kiser <mike.kiser at sailpoint.com>
>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [policy-charter] Zoom call for Admin Policy Push
>>>>>>>> group
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I can do either. . .
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Mike
>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *From:* policy-charter <policy-charter-bounces at lists.openid.net>
>>>>>>>> on behalf of Gerry Gebel via policy-charter <
>>>>>>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net>
>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 13, 2023 2:38:32 AM
>>>>>>>> *To:* Policy Charter Mail List <policy-charter at lists.openid.net>
>>>>>>>> *Cc:* Gerry Gebel <gerry at strata.io>
>>>>>>>> *Subject:* [policy-charter] Zoom call for Admin Policy Push group
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi all, Allan and I were thinking that a zoom call could be
>>>>>>>> productive to address a few topics, such as: - Scope - Renaming this group
>>>>>>>> - Review of current work - Thinking about IIW - Charter We'd like to have
>>>>>>>> this call before the end of
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Allan and I were thinking that a zoom call could be productive to
>>>>>>>> address a few topics, such as:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - Scope
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - Renaming this group
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - Review of current work
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - Thinking about IIW
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - Charter
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We'd like to have this call before the end of the month, so how
>>>>>>>> about:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - July 19 at 8am PT / 17:00 CET
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - July 27 at 8am PT / 17:00 CET
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gerry
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From alex at 3edges.com  Thu Jul 13 15:37:26 2023
From: alex at 3edges.com (Alex Babeanu)
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2023 08:37:26 -0700
Subject: [policy-charter] Zoom call for Admin Policy Push group
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Ok then, please keep me posted. I'll see what I can do to join...
Thanks,
./\.

On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 8:34?AM Gerry Gebel <gerry at strata.io> wrote:

> @alex at babeanu.com <alex at babeanu.com> You are the only one who can't make
> it on the 27th... Pieter says he could make it work before IETF stuff starts
>
> We will publish notes and I can have a 1:1 call with you afterwards
>
> -Gerry
>
> On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 8:31?AM Vittorio Bertocci <
> vittorio.bertocci at okta.com> wrote:
>
>> On the 19th I have a healt-related unmovable conflict.
>> If you guys need to meet on the 19th I?ll have to skip.
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 08:27 Alex Babeanu <alex at 3edges.com> wrote:
>>
>>> *This message originated outside your organization.*
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> mmm really? It seemed like the 19ths worked better, no? Pieter and
>>> myself can't do 27th.
>>> @Vittorio Bertocci <vittorio.bertocci at okta.com> you say 27th works
>>> better for you, but can you make the 19th work at all?
>>> Everybody else seems to say either day works, or did I miss smthg?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> ./\.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 8:20?AM Gerry Gebel via policy-charter <
>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks all for your responses, it looks like the 27th wins
>>>>
>>>> I'll send a calendar invite to you and list the zoom info here for
>>>> anyone else who cares to join.
>>>>
>>>> https://us06web.zoom.us/j/4284593682
>>>>
>>>> -Gerry
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 8:05?AM Steve Venema via policy-charter <
>>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm fine with either option.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Steve
>>>>> --
>>>>> [image: ForgeRock]
>>>>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.forgerock.com/__;!!PwKahg!7t5hxBVr_QiVEJvfTwRaKgRmv2gto0WFVPL1Giojbi6vsjN59YEUlhNSLeUj6m-6cWiKPm9uyiKVnv_j8w$> *Steve
>>>>> Venema*
>>>>> Distinguished Engineer  |  ForgeRock
>>>>> *t* +1 (425) 825-0855  |  *e* steve.venema at forgerock.com
>>>>> *web* www.forgerock.com
>>>>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.forgerock.com/__;!!PwKahg!7t5hxBVr_QiVEJvfTwRaKgRmv2gto0WFVPL1Giojbi6vsjN59YEUlhNSLeUj6m-6cWiKPm9uyiKVnv_j8w$>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>> ForgeRock values your *privacy*
>>>>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.forgerock.com/your-privacy__;!!PwKahg!7t5hxBVr_QiVEJvfTwRaKgRmv2gto0WFVPL1Giojbi6vsjN59YEUlhNSLeUj6m-6cWiKPm9uyiIyD9XIyA$>
>>>>> .
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 8:28?AM Alex Babeanu via policy-charter <
>>>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> 19th on my end, I can't on the 27th.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ./\.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 6:43?AM Andrew Hughes via policy-charter <
>>>>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> both ok - I'm on Japan time for ISO meetings so it's a bit
>>>>>>> anti-social :-) but hey - the glamorous life etc etc
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Andrew Hughes
>>>>>>> Director - Identity Standards
>>>>>>> andrewhughes at pingidentity.com
>>>>>>> Mobile/Signal: +1 250 888 9474
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 6:02?AM Steve Hutchinson via policy-charter <
>>>>>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Either works for me
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2023, 6:27 AM Pieter Kasselman via policy-charter <
>>>>>>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> July 19?th works better for me. 27?th clashes with IETF (although
>>>>>>>>> 8AM is early enough to do before the meetings start).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *From:* policy-charter <policy-charter-bounces at lists.openid.net> *On
>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of *Mike Kiser via policy-charter
>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 13, 2023 7:16 AM
>>>>>>>>> *To:* Policy Charter Mail List <policy-charter at lists.openid.net>
>>>>>>>>> *Cc:* Mike Kiser <mike.kiser at sailpoint.com>
>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [policy-charter] Zoom call for Admin Policy Push
>>>>>>>>> group
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I can do either. . .
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -Mike
>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *From:* policy-charter <policy-charter-bounces at lists.openid.net>
>>>>>>>>> on behalf of Gerry Gebel via policy-charter <
>>>>>>>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net>
>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 13, 2023 2:38:32 AM
>>>>>>>>> *To:* Policy Charter Mail List <policy-charter at lists.openid.net>
>>>>>>>>> *Cc:* Gerry Gebel <gerry at strata.io>
>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* [policy-charter] Zoom call for Admin Policy Push group
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi all, Allan and I were thinking that a zoom call could be
>>>>>>>>> productive to address a few topics, such as: - Scope - Renaming this group
>>>>>>>>> - Review of current work - Thinking about IIW - Charter We'd like to have
>>>>>>>>> this call before the end of
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This message came from outside your organization.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerEnd
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Allan and I were thinking that a zoom call could be productive to
>>>>>>>>> address a few topics, such as:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - Scope
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - Renaming this group
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - Review of current work
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - Thinking about IIW
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - Charter
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We'd like to have this call before the end of the month, so how
>>>>>>>>> about:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - July 19 at 8am PT / 17:00 CET
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - July 27 at 8am PT / 17:00 CET
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Gerry
>>>>>>>>> --
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Looking forward to it. Please send the calendar invite to the list.

On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 8:37?AM Alex Babeanu via policy-charter <
policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote:

> Ok then, please keep me posted. I'll see what I can do to join...
> Thanks,
> ./\.
>
> On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 8:34?AM Gerry Gebel <gerry at strata.io> wrote:
>
>> @alex at babeanu.com <alex at babeanu.com> You are the only one who can't make
>> it on the 27th... Pieter says he could make it work before IETF stuff starts
>>
>> We will publish notes and I can have a 1:1 call with you afterwards
>>
>> -Gerry
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 8:31?AM Vittorio Bertocci <
>> vittorio.bertocci at okta.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On the 19th I have a healt-related unmovable conflict.
>>> If you guys need to meet on the 19th I?ll have to skip.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 08:27 Alex Babeanu <alex at 3edges.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> *This message originated outside your organization.*
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> mmm really? It seemed like the 19ths worked better, no? Pieter and
>>>> myself can't do 27th.
>>>> @Vittorio Bertocci <vittorio.bertocci at okta.com> you say 27th works
>>>> better for you, but can you make the 19th work at all?
>>>> Everybody else seems to say either day works, or did I miss smthg?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> ./\.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 8:20?AM Gerry Gebel via policy-charter <
>>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks all for your responses, it looks like the 27th wins
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll send a calendar invite to you and list the zoom info here for
>>>>> anyone else who cares to join.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://us06web.zoom.us/j/4284593682
>>>>>
>>>>> -Gerry
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 8:05?AM Steve Venema via policy-charter <
>>>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm fine with either option.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Steve
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>>>>>> .
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 8:28?AM Alex Babeanu via policy-charter <
>>>>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 19th on my end, I can't on the 27th.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ./\.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 6:43?AM Andrew Hughes via policy-charter <
>>>>>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> both ok - I'm on Japan time for ISO meetings so it's a bit
>>>>>>>> anti-social :-) but hey - the glamorous life etc etc
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Andrew Hughes
>>>>>>>> Director - Identity Standards
>>>>>>>> andrewhughes at pingidentity.com
>>>>>>>> Mobile/Signal: +1 250 888 9474
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 6:02?AM Steve Hutchinson via policy-charter
>>>>>>>> <policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Either works for me
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2023, 6:27 AM Pieter Kasselman via policy-charter <
>>>>>>>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> July 19?th works better for me. 27?th clashes with IETF (although
>>>>>>>>>> 8AM is early enough to do before the meetings start).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *From:* policy-charter <policy-charter-bounces at lists.openid.net> *On
>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of *Mike Kiser via policy-charter
>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 13, 2023 7:16 AM
>>>>>>>>>> *To:* Policy Charter Mail List <policy-charter at lists.openid.net>
>>>>>>>>>> *Cc:* Mike Kiser <mike.kiser at sailpoint.com>
>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [policy-charter] Zoom call for Admin Policy Push
>>>>>>>>>> group
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I can do either. . .
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -Mike
>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *From:* policy-charter <policy-charter-bounces at lists.openid.net>
>>>>>>>>>> on behalf of Gerry Gebel via policy-charter <
>>>>>>>>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net>
>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 13, 2023 2:38:32 AM
>>>>>>>>>> *To:* Policy Charter Mail List <policy-charter at lists.openid.net>
>>>>>>>>>> *Cc:* Gerry Gebel <gerry at strata.io>
>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* [policy-charter] Zoom call for Admin Policy Push group
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, Allan and I were thinking that a zoom call could be
>>>>>>>>>> productive to address a few topics, such as: - Scope - Renaming this group
>>>>>>>>>> - Review of current work - Thinking about IIW - Charter We'd like to have
>>>>>>>>>> this call before the end of
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Allan and I were thinking that a zoom call could be productive to
>>>>>>>>>> address a few topics, such as:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> - Scope
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> - Renaming this group
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> - Review of current work
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> - Thinking about IIW
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> - Charter
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We'd like to have this call before the end of the month, so how
>>>>>>>>>> about:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> - July 19 at 8am PT / 17:00 CET
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> - July 27 at 8am PT / 17:00 CET
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Gerry
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