From dsmall at nulli.com Mon Jun 12 14:52:02 2023 From: dsmall at nulli.com (Derek Small) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2023 08:52:02 -0600 Subject: [policy-charter] PEP-PDP Group In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Patrick, I'll participate. *----* *Derek Small* *Nulli Identity Management* *Founder & CEO; cell: +1 403 809 1619 <+1+403+809+1619> | direct: +1 403 648 0901 <+1+403+648+0901> | nulli.com * *Everyone. Every thing. Everywhere.?* *ForgeRock Cloud Partner of 2022 * On Fri, Jun 9, 2023 at 9:33?AM Patrick Harding via policy-charter < policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote: > All, > Ping is happy to help drive this. I have asked Andrew HUghes on my team to > get the PEP-PDP Group chartered and up and running. 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I can document how it works in XACML. Is everyone okay to use Google docs to track our work in progress? D. On Mon, Jun 12, 2023, 6:57 PM Omri Gazitt via policy-charter < policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote: > Patrick, please count me in as well. > > -- > > > > Omri Gazitt | CEO > > Aserto Inc. | (425) 765-0079 > -- > policy-charter mailing list > policy-charter at lists.openid.net > https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From roland+openid at umbrella.associates Tue Jun 13 08:33:56 2023 From: roland+openid at umbrella.associates (Roland Baum) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2023 10:33:56 +0200 Subject: [policy-charter] PEP-PDP Group In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6df4307c-f221-1068-3a3f-5c1672a9eaaf@umbrella.associates> I'm in as well :-D Roland Baum umbrella.associates GmbH From omri at aserto.com Tue Jun 13 17:54:25 2023 From: omri at aserto.com (Omri Gazitt) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2023 10:54:25 -0700 Subject: [policy-charter] PEP-PDP Group In-Reply-To: <6df4307c-f221-1068-3a3f-5c1672a9eaaf@umbrella.associates> References: <6df4307c-f221-1068-3a3f-5c1672a9eaaf@umbrella.associates> Message-ID: I agree with David that looking at existing systems is a good place to start. If the idea is that PDPs can add a "standard" API that PEPs can call, then it would be good if the API supports the existing message exchange patterns (and doesn't mandate things that aren't supported). Here are three examples, to get us started: - OPA is interesting in the sense that its primary REST API is very document-oriented - you have a set of rules that are defined in a JSON-style hierarchy and you issue a GET or POST on that resource in the hierarchy to evaluate the rule that is rooted there. This seems like a special case. OPA does have a generic query API, which allows you to pass input and evaluate a rego query based on the loaded policy document and the input. - Auth0 FGA (one of the zanzibar implementations) has a check API that takes a JSON payload containing a user key, relation name, and object key, and returns an allowed decision (true or false). Most zanzibar implementations seem to do something similar - e.g. SpiceDB has a check API that takes a resource, permission, and subject. - Topaz (Aserto's OSS authorizer) has a query API that takes an identity and policy (rule/decisions to evaluate), and optionally a resource context and additional input, and returns what OPA would return. It also has a simpler is API that evaluates a policy (rule/decisions) with an identity and resource context. On Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 1:54?AM Roland Baum via policy-charter < policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote: > I'm in as well :-D > > > > Roland Baum > umbrella.associates GmbH > > > -- > policy-charter mailing list > policy-charter at lists.openid.net > https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From allan at macguru.com Tue Jun 13 18:30:03 2023 From: allan at macguru.com (Allan Foster) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2023 18:30:03 +0000 Subject: [policy-charter] PEP-PDP Group In-Reply-To: References: <6df4307c-f221-1068-3a3f-5c1672a9eaaf@umbrella.associates> Message-ID: So I am thinking we also want to set some scope of what we want to cover? Off the top of my head?. I can put some more context around these if they aren?t clear The Transport layer The Envelope Layer The request/response transaction layer How meta-data is handled? (both request and response) Extension mechanisms Exception mechanism Allan From: policy-charter on behalf of Omri Gazitt via policy-charter Date: Tuesday, June 13, 2023 at 10:54 To: Policy Charter Mail List Cc: Omri Gazitt Subject: Re: [policy-charter] PEP-PDP Group I agree with David that looking at existing systems is a good place to start. If the idea is that PDPs can add a "standard" API that PEPs can call, then it would be good if the API supports the existing message exchange patterns (and doesn't mandate things that aren't supported). Here are three examples, to get us started: * OPA is interesting in the sense that its primary REST API is very document-oriented - you have a set of rules that are defined in a JSON-style hierarchy and you issue a GET or POST on that resource in the hierarchy to evaluate the rule that is rooted there. This seems like a special case. OPA does have a generic query API, which allows you to pass input and evaluate a rego query based on the loaded policy document and the input. * Auth0 FGA (one of the zanzibar implementations) has a check API that takes a JSON payload containing a user key, relation name, and object key, and returns an allowed decision (true or false). Most zanzibar implementations seem to do something similar - e.g. SpiceDB has a check API that takes a resource, permission, and subject. * Topaz (Aserto's OSS authorizer) has a query API that takes an identity and policy (rule/decisions to evaluate), and optionally a resource context and additional input, and returns what OPA would return. It also has a simpler is API that evaluates a policy (rule/decisions) with an identity and resource context. On Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 1:54?AM Roland Baum via policy-charter > wrote: I'm in as well :-D Roland Baum umbrella.associates GmbH -- policy-charter mailing list policy-charter at lists.openid.net https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alex at 3edges.com Tue Jun 13 18:45:32 2023 From: alex at 3edges.com (Alex Babeanu) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2023 11:45:32 -0700 Subject: [policy-charter] PEP-PDP Group In-Reply-To: References: <6df4307c-f221-1068-3a3f-5c1672a9eaaf@umbrella.associates> Message-ID: This is a good discussion, that said a PEP is actually *not* mandated in all cases. For example you would *not* use a PEP to secure GraphQL APIs nor COTS software. I'm going to share soon a doc, to all contribute on, that lists common authorization design patterns. I think it would be a good basis for discussion, and at least to scope what we're trying to do... Thanks, ./\lex. On Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 11:30?AM Allan Foster via policy-charter < policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote: > So I am thinking we also want to set some scope of what we want to cover? > > > > Off the top of my head?. I can put some more context around these if > they aren?t clear > > > > The Transport layer > > The Envelope Layer > > The request/response transaction layer > > How meta-data is handled? (both request and response) > > Extension mechanisms > > Exception mechanism > > > > Allan > > > > > > > > *From: *policy-charter on > behalf of Omri Gazitt via policy-charter > *Date: *Tuesday, June 13, 2023 at 10:54 > *To: *Policy Charter Mail List > *Cc: *Omri Gazitt > *Subject: *Re: [policy-charter] PEP-PDP Group > > I agree with David that looking at existing systems is a good place to > start. If the idea is that PDPs can add a "standard" API that PEPs can > call, then it would be good if the API supports the existing message > exchange patterns (and doesn't mandate things that aren't supported). > > > > Here are three examples, to get us started: > > - OPA is interesting in the sense that its primary REST API is very > document-oriented - you have a set of rules that are defined in a > JSON-style hierarchy and you issue a GET or POST on that resource in the > hierarchy to evaluate the rule that is rooted there. This seems like a > special case. OPA does have a generic query > > API, which allows you to pass input and evaluate a rego query based on the > loaded policy document and the input. > - Auth0 FGA (one of the zanzibar implementations) has a check > API > that takes a JSON payload containing a user key, relation name, and object > key, and returns an allowed decision (true or false). Most zanzibar > implementations seem to do something similar - e.g. SpiceDB has a check > > API that takes a resource, permission, and subject. > - Topaz (Aserto's OSS authorizer) has a query > API that takes > an identity and policy (rule/decisions to evaluate), and optionally a > resource context and additional input, and returns what OPA would return. > It also has a simpler is > API that evaluates > a policy (rule/decisions) with an identity and resource context. > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 1:54?AM Roland Baum via policy-charter < > policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote: > > I'm in as well :-D > > > > Roland Baum > umbrella.associates GmbH > > > -- > policy-charter mailing list > policy-charter at lists.openid.net > https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter > > -- > policy-charter mailing list > policy-charter at lists.openid.net > https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter > -- [image: This is Alexandre Babeanu's card. Their email is alex at 3edges.com. Their phone number is +1 604 728 8130.] -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments hereto, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and/or proprietary information. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From roland+openid at umbrella.associates Tue Jun 13 20:18:42 2023 From: roland+openid at umbrella.associates (Roland Baum) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2023 22:18:42 +0200 Subject: [policy-charter] PEP-PDP Group In-Reply-To: References: <6df4307c-f221-1068-3a3f-5c1672a9eaaf@umbrella.associates> Message-ID: <5ccaa600-149e-1a9c-c93e-f9a4356e82ac@umbrella.associates> Hi there, may be this is a good chance to share a (very basic) API description of a PDP I recently made for a ReBAC approach. Link: https://gist.github.com/tr33/2fbd45a07524e9aa0867d103aa11eb79 Its not much into generalized, but tries to cover the basic aspects of request/response scheme between PEP/PDP. It's also pretty ReBAC-oriented, as one can see from the two "update" and "delete" interfaces. The intent was to design a useful but simple communication scheme between PEP (application) and PDP decisions - independent from the (ReBAC oriented) backend used by the PDP (which is OPA, in this case). Related entities like "Identity" or? "Policy" are yet not covered by the scheme, but could be addressed in further versions. Anyway, hope that helps to get some impressions and good ideas. feedback welcome! roland Am 13.06.23 um 20:45 schrieb Alex Babeanu via policy-charter: > This is a good discussion, that said a PEP is actually *not* mandated > in all cases. For example you would *not* use a PEP to secure GraphQL > APIs nor COTS software. > > I'm going to share soon a doc, to all contribute on, that lists common > authorization design patterns. I think it would be a good basis for > discussion, and at least to scope what we're trying to do... > > Thanks, > ./\lex. > > On Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 11:30?AM Allan Foster via policy-charter > wrote: > > So I am thinking we also want to set some scope of what we want to > cover? > > Off the top of my head?.?? I can put some more context around > these if they aren?t clear > > The Transport layer > > The Envelope Layer > > The request/response transaction layer > > How meta-data is handled?? (both request and response) > > Extension mechanisms > > Exception mechanism > > Allan > > *From: *policy-charter > on behalf of Omri Gazitt via policy-charter > > *Date: *Tuesday, June 13, 2023 at 10:54 > *To: *Policy Charter Mail List > *Cc: *Omri Gazitt > *Subject: *Re: [policy-charter] PEP-PDP Group > > I agree with David that looking at existing systems is a good > place to start. If the idea is that PDPs can add a "standard" API > that PEPs can call, then it would be good if the API supports the > existing message exchange patterns (and doesn't mandate things > that aren't supported). > > Here are three examples, to get us started: > > * OPA is interesting in the sense that its primary REST API is > very document-oriented - you have a set of rules that are > defined in a JSON-style hierarchy and you issue a GET or POST > on that resource in the hierarchy to evaluate?the rule that is > rooted there. This seems like a special case. OPA does have a > generic query > > API, which allows you to pass input and evaluate a rego query > based on the loaded policy document and the input. > * Auth0 FGA (one of the zanzibar implementations) has a check > ?API > that takes a JSON payload containing a user key, relation > name, and object key, and returns an allowed decision (true or > false). Most zanzibar implementations seem to do something > similar - e.g. SpiceDB has a check > > API that takes a resource, permission, and subject. > * Topaz (Aserto's OSS authorizer) has a query > ?API > that takes an identity and policy (rule/decisions to > evaluate), and optionally?a resource context and additional > input, and returns what OPA would return. It also has a > simpler is > API that evaluates a policy (rule/decisions) with an identity > and resource context. > > On Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 1:54?AM Roland Baum via policy-charter > wrote: > > I'm in as well :-D > > > > Roland Baum > umbrella.associates GmbH > > > -- > policy-charter mailing list > policy-charter at lists.openid.net > https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter > > -- > policy-charter mailing list > policy-charter at lists.openid.net > https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter > > > > -- > This is Alexandre Babeanu's card. Their email is alex at 3edges.com. > Their phone number is +1 604 728 8130. > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments > hereto, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may > contain confidential and/or proprietary information. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alex at 3edges.com Tue Jun 13 20:53:07 2023 From: alex at 3edges.com (Alex Babeanu) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2023 13:53:07 -0700 Subject: [policy-charter] PEP-PDP Group In-Reply-To: <5ccaa600-149e-1a9c-c93e-f9a4356e82ac@umbrella.associates> References: <6df4307c-f221-1068-3a3f-5c1672a9eaaf@umbrella.associates> <5ccaa600-149e-1a9c-c93e-f9a4356e82ac@umbrella.associates> Message-ID: Thanks Roland... that is cool, but not really usable in all cases, in mine at least. For instance, I'd need GraphQL . Additionally, I'd need to be able to CRUD any multi-hop relationships too (not just 1-hop). Imho a protocol that ignores GraphQL is not future-proof: "A recent Gartner report predicts that although only 10% of enterprises had implemented GraphQL as their internal data layer in 2021, by 2025 that number will increase to over 50% of global enterprises." https://blog.postman.com/emerging-trends-graphql-apis-technology-future-of-data-exchange/ Anyway, there's an opportunity to go beyond API definitions here, I think. I'd like to propose that we look at using *Authorization* *Events* instead, to convey authorization requests/responses: --> Apps or PEPs publish request events, --> PDPs subscribe to them, and publish response Events (to which PEPs and Apps subscribe). Advantages: - Just enhance the OpenID Shared Signals suite of standards to include AuthZ events (now we can focus on what such events would contain). - Agnostics of protocol/methodology/API style. - All the advantages of streaming: replay, speed, etc... See Apache Kafka et. al. - Decouples all systems, making the whole thing resilient, etc. Using streams of AuthZ events we could then define, and use, "Enterprise Authorization Meshes" (*AuthZ Mesh*,..?) , akin to data meshes. This would be in line with what most Organizations do already with their (often big) data. Thoughts? ./\. On Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 1:19?PM Roland Baum via policy-charter < policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote: > Hi there, > > may be this is a good chance to share a (very basic) API description of a > PDP I recently made for a ReBAC approach. > > Link: https://gist.github.com/tr33/2fbd45a07524e9aa0867d103aa11eb79 > > Its not much into generalized, but tries to cover the basic aspects of > request/response scheme between PEP/PDP. > It's also pretty ReBAC-oriented, as one can see from the two "update" and > "delete" interfaces. > > The intent was to design a useful but simple communication scheme between > PEP (application) and PDP decisions - independent from the (ReBAC oriented) > backend used by the PDP (which is OPA, in this case). > Related entities like "Identity" or "Policy" are yet not covered by the > scheme, but could be addressed in further versions. > > Anyway, hope that helps to get some impressions and good ideas. > > > feedback welcome! > > > roland > Am 13.06.23 um 20:45 schrieb Alex Babeanu via policy-charter: > > This is a good discussion, that said a PEP is actually *not* mandated in > all cases. For example you would *not* use a PEP to secure GraphQL APIs > nor COTS software. > > I'm going to share soon a doc, to all contribute on, that lists common > authorization design patterns. I think it would be a good basis for > discussion, and at least to scope what we're trying to do... > > Thanks, > ./\lex. > > On Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 11:30?AM Allan Foster via policy-charter < > policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote: > >> So I am thinking we also want to set some scope of what we want to >> cover? >> >> >> >> Off the top of my head?. I can put some more context around these if >> they aren?t clear >> >> >> >> The Transport layer >> >> The Envelope Layer >> >> The request/response transaction layer >> >> How meta-data is handled? (both request and response) >> >> Extension mechanisms >> >> Exception mechanism >> >> >> >> Allan >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From: *policy-charter on >> behalf of Omri Gazitt via policy-charter > > >> *Date: *Tuesday, June 13, 2023 at 10:54 >> *To: *Policy Charter Mail List >> *Cc: *Omri Gazitt >> *Subject: *Re: [policy-charter] PEP-PDP Group >> >> I agree with David that looking at existing systems is a good place to >> start. If the idea is that PDPs can add a "standard" API that PEPs can >> call, then it would be good if the API supports the existing message >> exchange patterns (and doesn't mandate things that aren't supported). >> >> >> >> Here are three examples, to get us started: >> >> - OPA is interesting in the sense that its primary REST API is very >> document-oriented - you have a set of rules that are defined in a >> JSON-style hierarchy and you issue a GET or POST on that resource in the >> hierarchy to evaluate the rule that is rooted there. This seems like a >> special case. OPA does have a generic query >> >> API, which allows you to pass input and evaluate a rego query based on the >> loaded policy document and the input. >> - Auth0 FGA (one of the zanzibar implementations) has a check >> API >> that takes a JSON payload containing a user key, relation name, and object >> key, and returns an allowed decision (true or false). Most zanzibar >> implementations seem to do something similar - e.g. SpiceDB has a >> check >> >> API that takes a resource, permission, and subject. >> - Topaz (Aserto's OSS authorizer) has a query >> API that takes >> an identity and policy (rule/decisions to evaluate), and optionally a >> resource context and additional input, and returns what OPA would return. >> It also has a simpler is >> API that >> evaluates a policy (rule/decisions) with an identity and resource context. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 1:54?AM Roland Baum via policy-charter < >> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote: >> >> I'm in as well :-D >> >> >> >> Roland Baum >> umbrella.associates GmbH >> >> >> -- >> policy-charter mailing list >> policy-charter at lists.openid.net >> https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter >> >> -- >> policy-charter mailing list >> policy-charter at lists.openid.net >> https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter >> > > > -- > [image: This is Alexandre Babeanu's card. 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It > seems like the PEP-PDP discussions are already taking off though, so I > wanted to try and get them on the this mailing list early, if possible. > > Thanks! > Shayne > > > *Shayne Miel* > / Principal Engineer (he, him, his) > > smiel at cisco.com > > (919) 923-6230 > > cisco.com > > > -- > policy-charter mailing list > policy-charter at lists.openid.net > https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Outlook-ocqg25wu.png Type: image/png Size: 13713 bytes Desc: not available URL: From allan at macguru.com Wed Jun 14 15:15:47 2023 From: allan at macguru.com (Allan Foster) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2023 08:15:47 -0700 Subject: [policy-charter] PEP-PDP Group In-Reply-To: References: <6df4307c-f221-1068-3a3f-5c1672a9eaaf@umbrella.associates> Message-ID: <2a5c3d88-c433-453a-8085-c3e2834ea9c2@Canary> Alex, I am not sure I fully agree with your statement! Although you might not use a PEP to protect those resources, There is still a reasonable use case to treat the spec as the API and transport for those resources to call out to a centralized AuthZ server. I think there are at least two use cases for standardization (as we discussed at IDentiverse) 1. A standardized interface between PEPs or agents and the PDP. This would allow de-weaponization of agents, and interoperability at the agent level?. 2. A standardization athe policy level so that IF the PDP cannot be centralized, the interop would be at the Policy level. Enabling the Policy Management to be centralized. A SaaS might not be willing to call out to a central PDP for AuthZ (and all the performance problems that brings) but might well be willing to accept the Policy definition into its own AuthZ system I see these as complimentary. On another note, We want to ensure that whatever we do at the PEP/PDP level, we allow for real time decisions. AuthZ decisions are not necessarily entitlements, and the decision may well depend on environmental issues at the time of the request. Allan > On Tuesday, Jun 13, 2023 at 11:45, Alex Babeanu wrote: > This is a good discussion, that said a PEP is actually not mandated in all cases. For example you would not use a PEP to secure GraphQL APIs nor COTS software. > > I'm going to share soon a doc, to all contribute on, that lists common authorization design patterns. I think it would be a good basis for discussion, and at least to scope what we're trying to do... > > Thanks, > ./\lex. > > > On Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 11:30?AM Allan Foster via policy-charter wrote: > > > > So I am thinking we also want to set some scope of what we want to cover? > > > > > > > > > > > > Off the top of my head?. I can put some more context around these if they aren?t clear > > > > > > > > > > > > The Transport layer > > > > > > The Envelope Layer > > > > > > The request/response transaction layer > > > > > > How meta-data is handled? (both request and response) > > > > > > Extension mechanisms > > > > > > Exception mechanism > > > > > > > > > > > > Allan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: policy-charter on behalf of Omri Gazitt via policy-charter > > Date: Tuesday, June 13, 2023 at 10:54 > > To: Policy Charter Mail List > > Cc: Omri Gazitt > > Subject: Re: [policy-charter] PEP-PDP Group > > > > > > > > I agree with David that looking at existing systems is a good place to start. If the idea is that PDPs can add a "standard" API that PEPs can call, then it would be good if the API supports the existing message exchange patterns (and doesn't mandate things that aren't supported). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here are three examples, to get us started: > > > > OPA is interesting in the sense that its primary REST API is very document-oriented - you have a set of rules that are defined in a JSON-style hierarchy and you issue a GET or POST on that resource in the hierarchy to evaluate the rule that is rooted there. This seems like a special case. OPA does have a generic query (https://www.openpolicyagent.org/docs/latest/rest-api/#execute-an-ad-hoc-query) API, which allows you to pass input and evaluate a rego query based on the loaded policy document and the input. > > Auth0 FGA (one of the zanzibar implementations) has a check (https://www.openpolicyagent.org/docs/latest/rest-api/#execute-an-ad-hoc-query) API that takes a JSON payload containing a user key, relation name, and object key, and returns an allowed decision (true or false). Most zanzibar implementations seem to do something similar - e.g. SpiceDB has a check (https://www.postman.com/authzed/workspace/spicedb/documentation/21043612-9786e5f3-2014-4b31-86c1-39335236c0e2?entity=request-c58c40ff-9fc7-4c3e-9cca-f017160ba5b8) API that takes a resource, permission, and subject. > > Topaz (Aserto's OSS authorizer) has a query (https://aserto.readme.io/reference/authorizerquery-1) API that takes an identity and policy (rule/decisions to evaluate), and optionally a resource context and additional input, and returns what OPA would return. It also has a simpler is (https://aserto.readme.io/reference/authorizeris-1) API that evaluates a policy (rule/decisions) with an identity and resource context. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 1:54?AM Roland Baum via policy-charter wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I'm in as well :-D > > > > > > > > > > > > Roland Baum > > > umbrella.associates GmbH > > > > > > > > > -- > > > policy-charter mailing list > > > policy-charter at lists.openid.net (mailto:policy-charter at lists.openid.net) > > > https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > policy-charter mailing list > > policy-charter at lists.openid.net (mailto:policy-charter at lists.openid.net) > > https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter > > > -- > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments hereto, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and/or proprietary information. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 8:10?AM Gerry Gebel via policy-charter < policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote: > Outstanding, thanks Shayne > > Similar to your situation, there are some others in the process of joining > OpenID so they can get involved > > Regards, > Gerry > > On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 8:02?AM Shayne Miel (smiel) via policy-charter < > policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I have a few colleagues that I would love to get added to the >> policy-charter mailing list. >> >> Breanna Vertkin (bvertkin at cisco.com), Cory Goode (cogoode at cisco.com), >> and I would like to join the Admin Policy Push workstream. >> >> Aaron Campbell (acam at cisco.com) would like to join the PEP-PDP >> workstream. >> >> We are in the process of onboarding them to the OpenID foundation. It >> seems like the PEP-PDP discussions are already taking off though, so I >> wanted to try and get them on the this mailing list early, if possible. >> >> Thanks! >> Shayne >> >> >> *Shayne Miel* >> / Principal Engineer (he, him, his) >> >> smiel at cisco.com >> >> (919) 923-6230 >> >> cisco.com >> >> >> -- >> policy-charter mailing list >> policy-charter at lists.openid.net >> https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter >> > -- > policy-charter mailing list > policy-charter at lists.openid.net > https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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What needs to be done for that purpose? > > > On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 8:10?AM Gerry Gebel via policy-charter wrote: > > Outstanding, thanks Shayne > > > > Similar to your situation, there are some others in the process of joining OpenID so they can get involved > > > > Regards, > > Gerry > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 8:02?AM Shayne Miel (smiel) via policy-charter wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I have a few colleagues that I would love to get added to the policy-charter mailing list. > > > > > > Breanna Vertkin (bvertkin at cisco.com (mailto:bvertkin at cisco.com)), Cory Goode (cogoode at cisco.com (mailto:cogoode at cisco.com)), and I would like to join the Admin Policy Push workstream. > > > > > > Aaron Campbell (acam at cisco.com (mailto:acam at cisco.com)) would like to join the PEP-PDP workstream. > > > > > > We are in the process of onboarding them to the OpenID foundation. It seems like the PEP-PDP discussions are already taking off though, so I wanted to try and get them on the this mailing list early, if possible. > > > > > > Thanks! > > > Shayne > > > > > > > > > Shayne Miel > > > / Principal Engineer (he, him, his) > > > > > > smiel at cisco.com (mailto:smiel at cisco.com) > > > > > > (919) 923-6230 > > > > > > cisco.com (https://www.cisco.com/site/us/en/products/security/index.html) > > > > > > > > > -- > > > policy-charter mailing list > > > policy-charter at lists.openid.net (mailto:policy-charter at lists.openid.net) > > > https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter > > -- > > policy-charter mailing list > > policy-charter at lists.openid.net (mailto:policy-charter at lists.openid.net) > > https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter > -- > policy-charter mailing list > policy-charter at lists.openid.net > https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Here are some samples: > > https://openid.net/wg/ > > Check out any of the groups, and look at their charter. > > Part of what we need to do, is define the scope, and proposed standards. > Thus, the inital discussion we are having now. > > We prob need a volunteer who will take on the responsibility of creating > the draft charter? > > Allan > > > On Wednesday, Jun 14, 2023 at 10:28, Atul Tulshibagwale via policy-charter > wrote: > Given the level of interest here (both in this thread and in the PDP-PEP > discussion), should we formalize this as a working group within the OpenID > Foundation? What needs to be done for that purpose? > > > On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 8:10?AM Gerry Gebel via policy-charter < > policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote: > >> Outstanding, thanks Shayne >> >> Similar to your situation, there are some others in the process of >> joining OpenID so they can get involved >> >> Regards, >> Gerry >> >> On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 8:02?AM Shayne Miel (smiel) via policy-charter < >> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I have a few colleagues that I would love to get added to the >>> policy-charter mailing list. >>> >>> Breanna Vertkin (bvertkin at cisco.com), Cory Goode (cogoode at cisco.com), >>> and I would like to join the Admin Policy Push workstream. >>> >>> Aaron Campbell (acam at cisco.com) would like to join the PEP-PDP >>> workstream. >>> >>> We are in the process of onboarding them to the OpenID foundation. It >>> seems like the PEP-PDP discussions are already taking off though, so I >>> wanted to try and get them on the this mailing list early, if possible. >>> >>> Thanks! >>> Shayne >>> >>> >>> *Shayne Miel* >>> / Principal Engineer (he, him, his) >>> >>> smiel at cisco.com >>> >>> (919) 923-6230 >>> >>> cisco.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> policy-charter mailing list >>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net >>> https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter >>> >> -- >> policy-charter mailing list >> policy-charter at lists.openid.net >> https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter >> > -- > policy-charter mailing list > policy-charter at lists.openid.net > https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter > > -- > policy-charter mailing list > policy-charter at lists.openid.net > https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter > -- _CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). 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Plus one or more chairs and one or more editors Gerry On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 10:38?AM Allan Foster via policy-charter < policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote: > > Indeed we should > > So part of that is putting the charter together. Here are some samples: > > https://openid.net/wg/ > > Check out any of the groups, and look at their charter. > > Part of what we need to do, is define the scope, and proposed standards. > Thus, the inital discussion we are having now. > > We prob need a volunteer who will take on the responsibility of creating > the draft charter? > > Allan > > > On Wednesday, Jun 14, 2023 at 10:28, Atul Tulshibagwale via policy-charter > wrote: > Given the level of interest here (both in this thread and in the PDP-PEP > discussion), should we formalize this as a working group within the OpenID > Foundation? What needs to be done for that purpose? > > > On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 8:10?AM Gerry Gebel via policy-charter < > policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote: > >> Outstanding, thanks Shayne >> >> Similar to your situation, there are some others in the process of >> joining OpenID so they can get involved >> >> Regards, >> Gerry >> >> On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 8:02?AM Shayne Miel (smiel) via policy-charter < >> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I have a few colleagues that I would love to get added to the >>> policy-charter mailing list. >>> >>> Breanna Vertkin (bvertkin at cisco.com), Cory Goode (cogoode at cisco.com), >>> and I would like to join the Admin Policy Push workstream. >>> >>> Aaron Campbell (acam at cisco.com) would like to join the PEP-PDP >>> workstream. >>> >>> We are in the process of onboarding them to the OpenID foundation. It >>> seems like the PEP-PDP discussions are already taking off though, so I >>> wanted to try and get them on the this mailing list early, if possible. >>> >>> Thanks! >>> Shayne >>> >>> >>> *Shayne Miel* >>> / Principal Engineer (he, him, his) >>> >>> smiel at cisco.com >>> >>> (919) 923-6230 >>> >>> cisco.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> policy-charter mailing list >>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net >>> https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter >>> >> -- >> policy-charter mailing list >> policy-charter at lists.openid.net >> https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter >> > -- > policy-charter mailing list > policy-charter at lists.openid.net > https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter > > -- > policy-charter mailing list > policy-charter at lists.openid.net > https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Any help you need, obviously just put it out on the list and we will all chime in, I am sure! :D Allan > On Wednesday, Jun 14, 2023 at 10:39, Andrew Hughes wrote: > I can start the PEP-PDP draft charter - I'll start a google doc this week > > > Andrew Hughes > Director - Identity Standards > andrewhughes at pingidentity.com (mailto:andrewhughes at pingidentity.com) > Mobile/Signal: +1 250 888 9474 > > > > On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 10:38?AM Allan Foster via policy-charter wrote: > > > > Indeed we should > > > > So part of that is putting the charter together. Here are some samples: > > > > https://openid.net/wg/ > > > > Check out any of the groups, and look at their charter. > > > > Part of what we need to do, is define the scope, and proposed standards. Thus, the inital discussion we are having now. > > > > We prob need a volunteer who will take on the responsibility of creating the draft charter? > > > > Allan > > > > > > > On Wednesday, Jun 14, 2023 at 10:28, Atul Tulshibagwale via policy-charter wrote: > > > Given the level of interest here (both in this thread and in the PDP-PEP discussion), should we formalize this as a working group within the OpenID Foundation? What needs to be done for that purpose? > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 8:10?AM Gerry Gebel via policy-charter wrote: > > > > Outstanding, thanks Shayne > > > > > > > > Similar to your situation, there are some others in the process of joining OpenID so they can get involved > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Gerry > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 8:02?AM Shayne Miel (smiel) via policy-charter wrote: > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > I have a few colleagues that I would love to get added to the policy-charter mailing list. > > > > > > > > > > Breanna Vertkin (bvertkin at cisco.com (mailto:bvertkin at cisco.com)), Cory Goode (cogoode at cisco.com (mailto:cogoode at cisco.com)), and I would like to join the Admin Policy Push workstream. > > > > > > > > > > Aaron Campbell (acam at cisco.com (mailto:acam at cisco.com)) would like to join the PEP-PDP workstream. > > > > > > > > > > We are in the process of onboarding them to the OpenID foundation. It seems like the PEP-PDP discussions are already taking off though, so I wanted to try and get them on the this mailing list early, if possible. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > Shayne > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shayne Miel > > > > > / Principal Engineer (he, him, his) > > > > > > > > > > smiel at cisco.com (mailto:smiel at cisco.com) > > > > > > > > > > (919) 923-6230 > > > > > > > > > > cisco.com (https://www.cisco.com/site/us/en/products/security/index.html) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > policy-charter mailing list > > > > > policy-charter at lists.openid.net (mailto:policy-charter at lists.openid.net) > > > > > https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter > > > > -- > > > > policy-charter mailing list > > > > policy-charter at lists.openid.net (mailto:policy-charter at lists.openid.net) > > > > https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter > > > -- > > > policy-charter mailing list > > > policy-charter at lists.openid.net (mailto:policy-charter at lists.openid.net) > > > https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter > > -- > > policy-charter mailing list > > policy-charter at lists.openid.net (mailto:policy-charter at lists.openid.net) > > https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). 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Sounds like you'll need to come visit us in NV On Wed, Jun 14, 2023, 10:41 AM Allan Foster via policy-charter < policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote: > Thank you Andrew. > > Any help you need, obviously just put it out on the list and we will all > chime in, I am sure! :D > > Allan > > > > On Wednesday, Jun 14, 2023 at 10:39, Andrew Hughes < > andrewhughes at pingidentity.com> wrote: > I can start the PEP-PDP draft charter - I'll start a google doc this week > > > Andrew Hughes > Director - Identity Standards > andrewhughes at pingidentity.com > Mobile/Signal: +1 250 888 9474 > > > > On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 10:38?AM Allan Foster via policy-charter < > policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote: > >> >> Indeed we should >> >> So part of that is putting the charter together. Here are some samples: >> >> https://openid.net/wg/ >> >> Check out any of the groups, and look at their charter. >> >> Part of what we need to do, is define the scope, and proposed >> standards. Thus, the inital discussion we are having now. >> >> We prob need a volunteer who will take on the responsibility of creating >> the draft charter? >> >> Allan >> >> >> On Wednesday, Jun 14, 2023 at 10:28, Atul Tulshibagwale via >> policy-charter wrote: >> Given the level of interest here (both in this thread and in the PDP-PEP >> discussion), should we formalize this as a working group within the OpenID >> Foundation? What needs to be done for that purpose? >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 8:10?AM Gerry Gebel via policy-charter < >> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote: >> >>> Outstanding, thanks Shayne >>> >>> Similar to your situation, there are some others in the process of >>> joining OpenID so they can get involved >>> >>> Regards, >>> Gerry >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 8:02?AM Shayne Miel (smiel) via policy-charter < >>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I have a few colleagues that I would love to get added to the >>>> policy-charter mailing list. >>>> >>>> Breanna Vertkin (bvertkin at cisco.com), Cory Goode (cogoode at cisco.com), >>>> and I would like to join the Admin Policy Push workstream. >>>> >>>> Aaron Campbell (acam at cisco.com) would like to join the PEP-PDP >>>> workstream. >>>> >>>> We are in the process of onboarding them to the OpenID foundation. It >>>> seems like the PEP-PDP discussions are already taking off though, so I >>>> wanted to try and get them on the this mailing list early, if possible. >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> Shayne >>>> >>>> >>>> *Shayne Miel* >>>> / Principal Engineer (he, him, his) >>>> >>>> smiel at cisco.com >>>> >>>> (919) 923-6230 >>>> >>>> cisco.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> policy-charter mailing list >>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net >>>> https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter >>>> >>> -- >>> policy-charter mailing list >>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net >>> https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter >>> >> -- >> policy-charter mailing list >> policy-charter at lists.openid.net >> https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter >> >> -- >> policy-charter mailing list >> policy-charter at lists.openid.net >> https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter >> > > *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email may contain confidential and > privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). 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Sounds like you'll need to come visit us in NV > > On Wed, Jun 14, 2023, 10:41 AM Allan Foster via policy-charter < > policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote: > >> Thank you Andrew. >> >> Any help you need, obviously just put it out on the list and we will all >> chime in, I am sure! :D >> >> Allan >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, Jun 14, 2023 at 10:39, Andrew Hughes < >> andrewhughes at pingidentity.com> wrote: >> I can start the PEP-PDP draft charter - I'll start a google doc this week >> >> >> Andrew Hughes >> Director - Identity Standards >> andrewhughes at pingidentity.com >> Mobile/Signal: +1 250 888 9474 >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 10:38?AM Allan Foster via policy-charter < >> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote: >> >>> >>> Indeed we should >>> >>> So part of that is putting the charter together. Here are some samples: >>> >>> https://openid.net/wg/ >>> >>> >>> Check out any of the groups, and look at their charter. >>> >>> Part of what we need to do, is define the scope, and proposed >>> standards. Thus, the inital discussion we are having now. >>> >>> We prob need a volunteer who will take on the responsibility of creating >>> the draft charter? >>> >>> Allan >>> >>> >>> On Wednesday, Jun 14, 2023 at 10:28, Atul Tulshibagwale via >>> policy-charter wrote: >>> Given the level of interest here (both in this thread and in the PDP-PEP >>> discussion), should we formalize this as a working group within the OpenID >>> Foundation? What needs to be done for that purpose? >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 8:10?AM Gerry Gebel via policy-charter < >>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote: >>> >>>> Outstanding, thanks Shayne >>>> >>>> Similar to your situation, there are some others in the process of >>>> joining OpenID so they can get involved >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Gerry >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 8:02?AM Shayne Miel (smiel) via policy-charter < >>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> I have a few colleagues that I would love to get added to the >>>>> policy-charter mailing list. >>>>> >>>>> Breanna Vertkin (bvertkin at cisco.com), Cory Goode (cogoode at cisco.com), >>>>> and I would like to join the Admin Policy Push workstream. >>>>> >>>>> Aaron Campbell (acam at cisco.com) would like to join the PEP-PDP >>>>> workstream. >>>>> >>>>> We are in the process of onboarding them to the OpenID foundation. It >>>>> seems like the PEP-PDP discussions are already taking off though, so I >>>>> wanted to try and get them on the this mailing list early, if possible. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks! >>>>> Shayne >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *Shayne Miel* >>>>> / Principal Engineer (he, him, his) >>>>> >>>>> smiel at cisco.com >>>>> >>>>> (919) 923-6230 >>>>> >>>>> cisco.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> policy-charter mailing list >>>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net >>>>> https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> policy-charter mailing list >>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net >>>> https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> policy-charter mailing list >>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net >>> https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter >>> >>> >>> -- >>> policy-charter mailing list >>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net >>> https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter >>> >>> >> >> *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email may contain confidential and >> privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). 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On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 1:02?PM Vittorio Bertocci via policy-charter < policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote: > I am sure among us we won?t have issues finding the necessary quorum > > On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 12:54 David Brossard via policy-charter < > policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote: > >> *This message originated outside your organization.* >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Andrew, happy to help. Sounds like you'll need to come visit us in NV >> >> On Wed, Jun 14, 2023, 10:41 AM Allan Foster via policy-charter < >> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote: >> >>> Thank you Andrew. >>> >>> Any help you need, obviously just put it out on the list and we will >>> all chime in, I am sure! :D >>> >>> Allan >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wednesday, Jun 14, 2023 at 10:39, Andrew Hughes < >>> andrewhughes at pingidentity.com> wrote: >>> I can start the PEP-PDP draft charter - I'll start a google doc this week >>> >>> >>> Andrew Hughes >>> Director - Identity Standards >>> andrewhughes at pingidentity.com >>> Mobile/Signal: +1 250 888 9474 >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 10:38?AM Allan Foster via policy-charter < >>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Indeed we should >>>> >>>> So part of that is putting the charter together. Here are some >>>> samples: >>>> >>>> https://openid.net/wg/ >>>> >>>> >>>> Check out any of the groups, and look at their charter. >>>> >>>> Part of what we need to do, is define the scope, and proposed >>>> standards. Thus, the inital discussion we are having now. >>>> >>>> We prob need a volunteer who will take on the responsibility of >>>> creating the draft charter? >>>> >>>> Allan >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, Jun 14, 2023 at 10:28, Atul Tulshibagwale via >>>> policy-charter wrote: >>>> Given the level of interest here (both in this thread and in the >>>> PDP-PEP discussion), should we formalize this as a working group within the >>>> OpenID Foundation? What needs to be done for that purpose? >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 8:10?AM Gerry Gebel via policy-charter < >>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Outstanding, thanks Shayne >>>>> >>>>> Similar to your situation, there are some others in the process of >>>>> joining OpenID so they can get involved >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Gerry >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 8:02?AM Shayne Miel (smiel) via policy-charter >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> >>>>>> I have a few colleagues that I would love to get added to the >>>>>> policy-charter mailing list. >>>>>> >>>>>> Breanna Vertkin (bvertkin at cisco.com), Cory Goode (cogoode at cisco.com), >>>>>> and I would like to join the Admin Policy Push workstream. >>>>>> >>>>>> Aaron Campbell (acam at cisco.com) would like to join the PEP-PDP >>>>>> workstream. >>>>>> >>>>>> We are in the process of onboarding them to the OpenID foundation. It >>>>>> seems like the PEP-PDP discussions are already taking off though, so I >>>>>> wanted to try and get them on the this mailing list early, if possible. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>> Shayne >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *Shayne Miel* >>>>>> / Principal Engineer (he, him, his) >>>>>> >>>>>> smiel at cisco.com >>>>>> >>>>>> (919) 923-6230 >>>>>> >>>>>> cisco.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> policy-charter mailing list >>>>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net >>>>>> https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> policy-charter mailing list >>>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net >>>>> https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> policy-charter mailing list >>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net >>>> https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> policy-charter mailing list >>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net >>>> https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter >>>> >>>> >>> >>> *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email may contain confidential and >>> privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). 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Sounds like you'll need to come visit us in NV > > On Wed, Jun 14, 2023, 10:41 AM Allan Foster via policy-charter < > policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote: > >> Thank you Andrew. >> >> Any help you need, obviously just put it out on the list and we will all >> chime in, I am sure! :D >> >> Allan >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, Jun 14, 2023 at 10:39, Andrew Hughes < >> andrewhughes at pingidentity.com> wrote: >> I can start the PEP-PDP draft charter - I'll start a google doc this week >> >> >> Andrew Hughes >> Director - Identity Standards >> andrewhughes at pingidentity.com >> Mobile/Signal: +1 250 888 9474 >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 10:38?AM Allan Foster via policy-charter < >> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote: >> >>> >>> Indeed we should >>> >>> So part of that is putting the charter together. Here are some samples: >>> >>> https://openid.net/wg/ >>> >>> Check out any of the groups, and look at their charter. >>> >>> Part of what we need to do, is define the scope, and proposed >>> standards. Thus, the inital discussion we are having now. >>> >>> We prob need a volunteer who will take on the responsibility of creating >>> the draft charter? >>> >>> Allan >>> >>> >>> On Wednesday, Jun 14, 2023 at 10:28, Atul Tulshibagwale via >>> policy-charter wrote: >>> Given the level of interest here (both in this thread and in the PDP-PEP >>> discussion), should we formalize this as a working group within the OpenID >>> Foundation? What needs to be done for that purpose? >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 8:10?AM Gerry Gebel via policy-charter < >>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote: >>> >>>> Outstanding, thanks Shayne >>>> >>>> Similar to your situation, there are some others in the process of >>>> joining OpenID so they can get involved >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Gerry >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 8:02?AM Shayne Miel (smiel) via policy-charter < >>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> I have a few colleagues that I would love to get added to the >>>>> policy-charter mailing list. >>>>> >>>>> Breanna Vertkin (bvertkin at cisco.com), Cory Goode (cogoode at cisco.com), >>>>> and I would like to join the Admin Policy Push workstream. >>>>> >>>>> Aaron Campbell (acam at cisco.com) would like to join the PEP-PDP >>>>> workstream. >>>>> >>>>> We are in the process of onboarding them to the OpenID foundation. It >>>>> seems like the PEP-PDP discussions are already taking off though, so I >>>>> wanted to try and get them on the this mailing list early, if possible. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks! >>>>> Shayne >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *Shayne Miel* >>>>> / Principal Engineer (he, him, his) >>>>> >>>>> smiel at cisco.com >>>>> >>>>> (919) 923-6230 >>>>> >>>>> cisco.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> policy-charter mailing list >>>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net >>>>> https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> policy-charter mailing list >>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net >>>> https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter >>>> >>> -- >>> policy-charter mailing list >>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net >>> https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter >>> >>> -- >>> policy-charter mailing list >>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net >>> https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter >>> >> >> *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email may contain confidential and >> privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). 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Sounds like you'll need to come visit us in NV >> >> On Wed, Jun 14, 2023, 10:41 AM Allan Foster via policy-charter < >> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote: >> >>> Thank you Andrew. >>> >>> Any help you need, obviously just put it out on the list and we will >>> all chime in, I am sure! :D >>> >>> Allan >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wednesday, Jun 14, 2023 at 10:39, Andrew Hughes < >>> andrewhughes at pingidentity.com> wrote: >>> I can start the PEP-PDP draft charter - I'll start a google doc this week >>> >>> >>> Andrew Hughes >>> Director - Identity Standards >>> andrewhughes at pingidentity.com >>> Mobile/Signal: +1 250 888 9474 >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 10:38?AM Allan Foster via policy-charter < >>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Indeed we should >>>> >>>> So part of that is putting the charter together. Here are some >>>> samples: >>>> >>>> https://openid.net/wg/ >>>> >>>> >>>> Check out any of the groups, and look at their charter. >>>> >>>> Part of what we need to do, is define the scope, and proposed >>>> standards. Thus, the inital discussion we are having now. >>>> >>>> We prob need a volunteer who will take on the responsibility of >>>> creating the draft charter? >>>> >>>> Allan >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, Jun 14, 2023 at 10:28, Atul Tulshibagwale via >>>> policy-charter wrote: >>>> Given the level of interest here (both in this thread and in the >>>> PDP-PEP discussion), should we formalize this as a working group within the >>>> OpenID Foundation? What needs to be done for that purpose? >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 8:10?AM Gerry Gebel via policy-charter < >>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Outstanding, thanks Shayne >>>>> >>>>> Similar to your situation, there are some others in the process of >>>>> joining OpenID so they can get involved >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Gerry >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 8:02?AM Shayne Miel (smiel) via policy-charter >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> >>>>>> I have a few colleagues that I would love to get added to the >>>>>> policy-charter mailing list. >>>>>> >>>>>> Breanna Vertkin (bvertkin at cisco.com), Cory Goode (cogoode at cisco.com), >>>>>> and I would like to join the Admin Policy Push workstream. >>>>>> >>>>>> Aaron Campbell (acam at cisco.com) would like to join the PEP-PDP >>>>>> workstream. >>>>>> >>>>>> We are in the process of onboarding them to the OpenID foundation. It >>>>>> seems like the PEP-PDP discussions are already taking off though, so I >>>>>> wanted to try and get them on the this mailing list early, if possible. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>> Shayne >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *Shayne Miel* >>>>>> / Principal Engineer (he, him, his) >>>>>> >>>>>> smiel at cisco.com >>>>>> >>>>>> (919) 923-6230 >>>>>> >>>>>> cisco.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> policy-charter mailing list >>>>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net >>>>>> https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> policy-charter mailing list >>>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net >>>>> https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> policy-charter mailing list >>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net >>>> https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> policy-charter mailing list >>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net >>>> https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter >>>> >>>> >>> >>> *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email may contain confidential and >>> privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). 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On Thu, Jun 15, 2023, 8:00 AM Andres Aguiar via policy-charter < policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote: > Hi Everyone! > > I'm the Product Manager for Okta's developer authorization products (Auth0 > FGA/OpenFGA). > > Nice meeting you here! > > I'd like to be part of the group discussing PDP-PEP :) > > Thanks! > > Andres Aguiar > Product Manager | fga.dev | openfga.dev > Okta > > > On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 8:46?PM Omri Gazitt via policy-charter < > policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote: > >> *This message originated outside your organization.* >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> +1 :) >> >> On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 12:54?PM David Brossard via policy-charter < >> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote: >> >>> Andrew, happy to help. Sounds like you'll need to come visit us in NV >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 14, 2023, 10:41 AM Allan Foster via policy-charter < >>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote: >>> >>>> Thank you Andrew. >>>> >>>> Any help you need, obviously just put it out on the list and we will >>>> all chime in, I am sure! :D >>>> >>>> Allan >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, Jun 14, 2023 at 10:39, Andrew Hughes < >>>> andrewhughes at pingidentity.com> wrote: >>>> I can start the PEP-PDP draft charter - I'll start a google doc this >>>> week >>>> >>>> >>>> Andrew Hughes >>>> Director - Identity Standards >>>> andrewhughes at pingidentity.com >>>> Mobile/Signal: +1 250 888 9474 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 10:38?AM Allan Foster via policy-charter < >>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Indeed we should >>>>> >>>>> So part of that is putting the charter together. Here are some >>>>> samples: >>>>> >>>>> https://openid.net/wg/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Check out any of the groups, and look at their charter. >>>>> >>>>> Part of what we need to do, is define the scope, and proposed >>>>> standards. Thus, the inital discussion we are having now. >>>>> >>>>> We prob need a volunteer who will take on the responsibility of >>>>> creating the draft charter? >>>>> >>>>> Allan >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wednesday, Jun 14, 2023 at 10:28, Atul Tulshibagwale via >>>>> policy-charter wrote: >>>>> Given the level of interest here (both in this thread and in the >>>>> PDP-PEP discussion), should we formalize this as a working group within the >>>>> OpenID Foundation? What needs to be done for that purpose? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 8:10?AM Gerry Gebel via policy-charter < >>>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Outstanding, thanks Shayne >>>>>> >>>>>> Similar to your situation, there are some others in the process of >>>>>> joining OpenID so they can get involved >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Gerry >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 8:02?AM Shayne Miel (smiel) via >>>>>> policy-charter wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have a few colleagues that I would love to get added to the >>>>>>> policy-charter mailing list. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Breanna Vertkin (bvertkin at cisco.com), Cory Goode (cogoode at cisco.com), >>>>>>> and I would like to join the Admin Policy Push workstream. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Aaron Campbell (acam at cisco.com) would like to join the PEP-PDP >>>>>>> workstream. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We are in the process of onboarding them to the OpenID foundation. >>>>>>> It seems like the PEP-PDP discussions are already taking off though, so I >>>>>>> wanted to try and get them on the this mailing list early, if possible. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>> Shayne >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Shayne Miel* >>>>>>> / Principal Engineer (he, him, his) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> smiel at cisco.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> (919) 923-6230 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> cisco.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> policy-charter mailing list >>>>>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net >>>>>>> https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> policy-charter mailing list >>>>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net >>>>>> https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> policy-charter mailing list >>>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net >>>>> https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> policy-charter mailing list >>>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net >>>>> https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email may contain confidential and >>>> privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). 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On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 10:33 David Brossard via policy-charter < policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote: > *This message originated outside your organization.* > > ------------------------------ > > Count me in too > > On Thu, Jun 15, 2023, 10:30 AM Shayne Miel (smiel) via policy-charter < > policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote: > >> Please count me in for the Admin Policy Push group. >> >> Thanks! >> Shayne Miel >> >> >> >> *Shayne Miel* >> / Principal Engineer (he, him, his) >> >> smiel at cisco.com >> >> (919) 923-6230 >> >> cisco.com >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* policy-charter on >> behalf of Gerry Gebel via policy-charter > > >> *Sent:* Thursday, June 15, 2023 10:53 AM >> *To:* Policy Charter Mail List >> *Cc:* Gerry Gebel >> *Subject:* [policy-charter] Admin Policy Push Group >> >> Hi all - >> >> Thanks to Andrew Hughes for leading the PEP-PDP Group and those that have >> expressed interest in pursuing that effort. >> >> How about the Admin Policy Push work stream? 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URL: From omri at aserto.com Thu Jun 15 18:51:41 2023 From: omri at aserto.com (Omri Gazitt) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2023 11:51:41 -0700 Subject: [policy-charter] Admin Policy Push Group In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Me too On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 10:35 AM Atul Tulshibagwale via policy-charter < policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote: > Im in > > On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 10:34?AM Vittorio Bertocci via policy-charter < > policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote: > >> Would love to be on it! >> >> On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 10:33 David Brossard via policy-charter < >> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote: >> >>> *This message originated outside your organization.* >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Count me in too >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 15, 2023, 10:30 AM Shayne Miel (smiel) via policy-charter < >>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote: >>> >>>> Please count me in for the Admin Policy Push group. >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> Shayne Miel >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *Shayne Miel* >>>> / Principal Engineer (he, him, his) >>>> >>>> smiel at cisco.com >>>> >>>> (919) 923-6230 >>>> >>>> cisco.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From:* policy-charter on >>>> behalf of Gerry Gebel via policy-charter < >>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> >>>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 15, 2023 10:53 AM >>>> *To:* Policy Charter Mail List >>>> *Cc:* Gerry Gebel >>>> *Subject:* [policy-charter] Admin Policy Push Group >>>> >>>> Hi all - >>>> >>>> Thanks to Andrew Hughes for leading the PEP-PDP Group and those that >>>> have expressed interest in pursuing that effort. >>>> >>>> How about the Admin Policy Push work stream? 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URL: From omri at aserto.com Thu Jun 15 21:30:43 2023 From: omri at aserto.com (Omri Gazitt) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2023 14:30:43 -0700 Subject: [policy-charter] Adding colleagues to the list In-Reply-To: References: <67e83a4c-a598-47e2-aa89-a6bffeadfe5b@Canary> Message-ID: Great to have you Andres! On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 8:32 AM David Brossard via policy-charter < policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote: > Hi Andres! ? We meet again! > > On Thu, Jun 15, 2023, 8:00 AM Andres Aguiar via policy-charter < > policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote: > >> Hi Everyone! >> >> I'm the Product Manager for Okta's developer authorization products >> (Auth0 FGA/OpenFGA). >> >> Nice meeting you here! >> >> I'd like to be part of the group discussing PDP-PEP :) >> >> Thanks! >> >> Andres Aguiar >> Product Manager | fga.dev | openfga.dev >> Okta >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 8:46?PM Omri Gazitt via policy-charter < >> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote: >> >>> *This message originated outside your organization.* >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> +1 :) >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 12:54?PM David Brossard via policy-charter < >>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote: >>> >>>> Andrew, happy to help. Sounds like you'll need to come visit us in NV >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jun 14, 2023, 10:41 AM Allan Foster via policy-charter < >>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thank you Andrew. >>>>> >>>>> Any help you need, obviously just put it out on the list and we will >>>>> all chime in, I am sure! :D >>>>> >>>>> Allan >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wednesday, Jun 14, 2023 at 10:39, Andrew Hughes < >>>>> andrewhughes at pingidentity.com> wrote: >>>>> I can start the PEP-PDP draft charter - I'll start a google doc this >>>>> week >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Andrew Hughes >>>>> Director - Identity Standards >>>>> andrewhughes at pingidentity.com >>>>> Mobile/Signal: +1 250 888 9474 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 10:38?AM Allan Foster via policy-charter < >>>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Indeed we should >>>>>> >>>>>> So part of that is putting the charter together. Here are some >>>>>> samples: >>>>>> >>>>>> https://openid.net/wg/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Check out any of the groups, and look at their charter. >>>>>> >>>>>> Part of what we need to do, is define the scope, and proposed >>>>>> standards. Thus, the inital discussion we are having now. >>>>>> >>>>>> We prob need a volunteer who will take on the responsibility of >>>>>> creating the draft charter? >>>>>> >>>>>> Allan >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wednesday, Jun 14, 2023 at 10:28, Atul Tulshibagwale via >>>>>> policy-charter wrote: >>>>>> Given the level of interest here (both in this thread and in the >>>>>> PDP-PEP discussion), should we formalize this as a working group within the >>>>>> OpenID Foundation? What needs to be done for that purpose? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 8:10?AM Gerry Gebel via policy-charter < >>>>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Outstanding, thanks Shayne >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Similar to your situation, there are some others in the process of >>>>>>> joining OpenID so they can get involved >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Gerry >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 8:02?AM Shayne Miel (smiel) via >>>>>>> policy-charter wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have a few colleagues that I would love to get added to the >>>>>>>> policy-charter mailing list. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Breanna Vertkin (bvertkin at cisco.com), Cory Goode (cogoode at cisco.com), >>>>>>>> and I would like to join the Admin Policy Push workstream. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Aaron Campbell (acam at cisco.com) would like to join the PEP-PDP >>>>>>>> workstream. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We are in the process of onboarding them to the OpenID foundation. >>>>>>>> It seems like the PEP-PDP discussions are already taking off though, so I >>>>>>>> wanted to try and get them on the this mailing list early, if possible. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>>> Shayne >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *Shayne Miel* >>>>>>>> / Principal Engineer (he, him, his) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> smiel at cisco.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> (919) 923-6230 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> cisco.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> policy-charter mailing list >>>>>>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net >>>>>>>> https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> policy-charter mailing list >>>>>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net >>>>>>> https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> policy-charter mailing list >>>>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net >>>>>> https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> policy-charter mailing list >>>>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net >>>>>> https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email may contain confidential and >>>>> privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). 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URL: From gerry at strata.io Fri Jun 16 15:04:31 2023 From: gerry at strata.io (Gerry Gebel) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2023 08:04:31 -0700 Subject: [policy-charter] Amending Identiverse 2023 notes - Take Two In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Omri - There was no attachment, the notes were in a previous email that you can retrieve from the archive but I include them (corrected) here for convenience: ========= Hi all - Here is my attempt at capturing the essence of our meeting today to discuss policy standardization possibilities. Feel free to correct or expand on any point. Attendees: MUFG (Hutch), AWS (Julian, Darren, Dean), 3Edges (Alex), Nulli (Derek), Strata (Topher, Granville, Gerry), Microsoft (Pam, Pieter, Danny), Spiffe (Evan), ForgeRock (Steve), Sgnl (Atul), PlainId (Gal), OpenId (Scott), Independent (Allan), Okta (Vittorio), Ping Identity (Patrick), Axiomatics (David) Summary It was agreed that two possible work streams are worthy of further discussion and would be valuable to the industry: 1. The PEP - PDP communication is very similar across multiple implementations, such as in XACML, Open Policy Agent, Amazon Verified Permissions and other implementations. 2. Admin Policy Push: Can access policies be written in a generic format and translated/pushed to various runtime evaluation/enforcement systems? **Note: Both of the above items would naturally include the gathering and documentation of relevant use cases. A sampling of the discussion: Allan started the session by recounting that we held a similar meeting at Identiverse 2022 but the mailing list quickly fizzled out. However, a lot has happened in the past year around authorization with a renewed interest and focus evidenced by track topics and presentations at recent Gartner IAM, EIC and Identiverse conferences. In fact, Andre Durand and Alex Simmons spoke directly about authorization in their respective keynotes this week. Therefore, it seems that there must be something that this group of people could work together on. The open discussion pretty quickly centered around the two work streams summarized above, since they were a couple of obvious candidates that could result in tangible outcomes. Next steps: We are posting these notes to the OIDF policy charter list to see if there are more comments to include from the meeting or if anyone has had additional thoughts to share. >*From there, we will have to organize around the two streams to see who *wants to actively work on each or both moving forward. I am happy to help organize the Admin Policy Push group - are there any volunteers for the PEP-PDP group? Best regards, Gerry ===== On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 10:27?PM Omri Gazitt wrote: > I don't think the attachment made it? (I thought maybe just on my end, but > the listserv > > doesn't show it either) > > On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 7:50?AM Gerry Gebel via policy-charter < > policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote: > >> Hopefully this is the last correction, the attendance list also included >> Axiomatics (David) and Ping Identity (Patrick) >> >> Gerry >> -- >> policy-charter mailing list >> policy-charter at lists.openid.net >> https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From debbie.bucci at equideum.com Fri Jun 16 15:21:28 2023 From: debbie.bucci at equideum.com (Debbie Bucci) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2023 15:21:28 +0000 Subject: [policy-charter] Amending Identiverse 2023 notes - Take Two In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks so much for posting this for those of us who were not at Identiverse. For whomever is keeping track ? interested in PEP ? PDP workstream and glad to helps with scoping of charter ? if needed/ not posted directly to iist for comments. Best Regards Debbie Bucci From: policy-charter on behalf of Gerry Gebel via policy-charter Date: Friday, June 16, 2023 at 11:04 AM To: Omri Gazitt Cc: Gerry Gebel , Policy Charter Mail List Subject: Re: [policy-charter] Amending Identiverse 2023 notes - Take Two Omri - There was no attachment, the notes were in a previous email that you can retrieve from the archive but I include them (corrected) here for convenience: ========= Hi all - Here is my attempt at capturing the essence of our meeting today to discuss policy standardization possibilities. Feel free to correct or expand on any point. Attendees: MUFG (Hutch), AWS (Julian, Darren, Dean), 3Edges (Alex), Nulli (Derek), Strata (Topher, Granville, Gerry), Microsoft (Pam, Pieter, Danny), Spiffe (Evan), ForgeRock (Steve), Sgnl (Atul), PlainId (Gal), OpenId (Scott), Independent (Allan), Okta (Vittorio), Ping Identity (Patrick), Axiomatics (David) Summary It was agreed that two possible work streams are worthy of further discussion and would be valuable to the industry: 1. The PEP - PDP communication is very similar across multiple implementations, such as in XACML, Open Policy Agent, Amazon Verified Permissions and other implementations. 2. Admin Policy Push: Can access policies be written in a generic format and translated/pushed to various runtime evaluation/enforcement systems? **Note: Both of the above items would naturally include the gathering and documentation of relevant use cases. A sampling of the discussion: Allan started the session by recounting that we held a similar meeting at Identiverse 2022 but the mailing list quickly fizzled out. However, a lot has happened in the past year around authorization with a renewed interest and focus evidenced by track topics and presentations at recent Gartner IAM, EIC and Identiverse conferences. In fact, Andre Durand and Alex Simmons spoke directly about authorization in their respective keynotes this week. Therefore, it seems that there must be something that this group of people could work together on. The open discussion pretty quickly centered around the two work streams summarized above, since they were a couple of obvious candidates that could result in tangible outcomes. Next steps: We are posting these notes to the OIDF policy charter list to see if there are more comments to include from the meeting or if anyone has had additional thoughts to share. >From there, we will have to organize around the two streams to see who wants to actively work on each or both moving forward. I am happy to help organize the Admin Policy Push group - are there any volunteers for the PEP-PDP group? Best regards, Gerry ===== On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 10:27?PM Omri Gazitt > wrote: I don't think the attachment made it? (I thought maybe just on my end, but the listserv doesn't show it either) On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 7:50?AM Gerry Gebel via policy-charter > wrote: Hopefully this is the last correction, the attendance list also included Axiomatics (David) and Ping Identity (Patrick) Gerry -- policy-charter mailing list policy-charter at lists.openid.net https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andrewhughes at pingidentity.com Fri Jun 16 18:50:02 2023 From: andrewhughes at pingidentity.com (Andrew Hughes) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2023 11:50:02 -0700 Subject: [policy-charter] Link to PDP-PEP Interop WG Charter draft document Message-ID: Here is the document I have started - the link puts you into "suggest" mode. Please add text with self-attribution. 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Be respectful of others' > contributions. > > > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ijAaymAapYyeV_3qMVjuLtNzoskKsh7R/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=110252403279221684258&rtpof=true&sd=true > > > [image: Ping > Identity] > Andrew Hughes > Director - Identity Standards > andrewhughes at pingidentity.com > > Connect with us: > [image: > Glassdoor logo] > > [image: LinkedIn logo] > > [image: twitter logo] > > [image: facebook logo] > > [image: youtube logo] > > [image: Blog logo] > > > > > > > *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email may contain confidential and > privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any > review, use, distribution or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. > If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender > immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any file attachments from > your computer. 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I am inclined to think the WG should be AuthZ something??. and have two separate streams?. (or standards?) Thoughts Allan > On Friday, Jun 16, 2023 at 14:02, Alex Babeanu via policy-charter wrote: > Thanks Andrew! > Added a first comment in there... The season's open! > > ./\. > On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 11:50?AM Andrew Hughes via policy-charter wrote: > > Here is the document I have started - the link puts you into "suggest" mode. Please add text with self-attribution. Be respectful of others' contributions. > > > > > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ijAaymAapYyeV_3qMVjuLtNzoskKsh7R/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=110252403279221684258&rtpof=true&sd=true > > > > > > Andrew Hughes > > Director - Identity Standards > > andrewhughes at pingidentity.com (mailto:andrewhughes at pingidentity.com) > > > > Connect with us: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). 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URL: From andrewhughes at pingidentity.com Fri Jun 16 22:40:17 2023 From: andrewhughes at pingidentity.com (Andrew Hughes) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2023 15:40:17 -0700 Subject: [policy-charter] Link to PDP-PEP Interop WG Charter draft document In-Reply-To: <50843d0b-b16c-4e40-abe0-a03c2c1f81c9@Canary> References: <50843d0b-b16c-4e40-abe0-a03c2c1f81c9@Canary> Message-ID: Let's bash out the goals and scope for each set of deliverables first, then work out the WG structures. The OIDF incubation of the work could lead to contribution into somewhere like IETF (or it might not) Andrew Hughes Director - Identity Standards andrewhughes at pingidentity.com Mobile/Signal: +1 250 888 9474 On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 2:45?PM Allan Foster via policy-charter < policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote: > So, I wonder if we should do two different WGs, or one WG with two > different standards?. (At least, for now?) > > I am inclined to think the WG should be AuthZ something??. and have two > separate streams?. (or standards?) > > Thoughts > > Allan > > > > On Friday, Jun 16, 2023 at 14:02, Alex Babeanu via policy-charter < > policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote: > Thanks Andrew! > Added a first comment in there... The season's open! > > ./\. > > On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 11:50?AM Andrew Hughes via policy-charter < > policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote: > >> Here is the document I have started - the link puts you into "suggest" >> mode. Please add text with self-attribution. Be respectful of others' >> contributions. >> >> >> >> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ijAaymAapYyeV_3qMVjuLtNzoskKsh7R/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=110252403279221684258&rtpof=true&sd=true >> >> >> [image: >> Ping Identity] >> Andrew Hughes >> Director - Identity Standards >> andrewhughes at pingidentity.com >> >> Connect with us: >> [image: >> Glassdoor logo] >> >> [image: LinkedIn logo] >> >> [image: twitter logo] >> >> [image: facebook logo] >> >> [image: youtube logo] >> >> [image: Blog logo] >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email may contain confidential and >> privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any >> review, use, distribution or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. >> If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender >> immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any file attachments from >> your computer. 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URL: From roland+openid at umbrella.associates Sun Jun 18 21:53:52 2023 From: roland+openid at umbrella.associates (Roland Baum) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2023 23:53:52 +0200 Subject: [policy-charter] Admin Policy Push Group In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2b04cf85-8758-a100-579f-f2dd53eb01d4@umbrella.associates> me too! :-D Am 15.06.23 um 20:51 schrieb Omri Gazitt via policy-charter: > Me too > > On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 10:35 AM Atul Tulshibagwale via policy-charter > wrote: > > Im in > > On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 10:34?AM Vittorio Bertocci via > policy-charter wrote: > > Would love to be on it! > > On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 10:33 David Brossard via > policy-charter wrote: > > *This message originated outside your organization.* > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Count me in too > > On Thu, Jun 15, 2023, 10:30 AM Shayne Miel (smiel) via > policy-charter wrote: > > Please count me in for the Admin Policy Push group. > > Thanks! > Shayne Miel > > > > > *Shayne Miel* > /Principal Engineer (he, him, his) > > smiel at cisco.com > > (919) 923-6230 > > cisco.com > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* policy-charter > on behalf of > Gerry Gebel via policy-charter > > *Sent:* Thursday, June 15, 2023 10:53 AM > *To:* Policy Charter Mail List > > *Cc:* Gerry Gebel > *Subject:* [policy-charter] Admin Policy Push Group > Hi all - > > Thanks to Andrew Hughes for leading the PEP-PDP Group > and those that have expressed interest in pursuing > that effort. > > How about the Admin Policy Push work stream? Who is > interested in participating? > Thanks, > Gerry > -- > policy-charter mailing list > policy-charter at lists.openid.net > https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter > > > -- > policy-charter mailing list > policy-charter at lists.openid.net > https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter > > -- > policy-charter mailing list > policy-charter at lists.openid.net > https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter > > -- > policy-charter mailing list > policy-charter at lists.openid.net > https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter > > -- > > > > > > Omri Gazitt| CEO > > Aserto Inc.| (425) 765-0079 > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From omri at aserto.com Sun Jun 18 23:00:21 2023 From: omri at aserto.com (Omri Gazitt) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2023 16:00:21 -0700 Subject: [policy-charter] Admin Policy Push Group In-Reply-To: <2b04cf85-8758-a100-579f-f2dd53eb01d4@umbrella.associates> References: <2b04cf85-8758-a100-579f-f2dd53eb01d4@umbrella.associates> Message-ID: One thing I'd like to put out there... In a world where both policy and data are important parts of a decision, we should consider expanding the scope of what we believe should be pushed from an administration point to a decision point. Specifically, with a ReBAC model (or a hybrid policy-as-code / policy-as-data model), changes in relationships between subjects and objects are as critical to communicate as policy changes. If folks agree, then perhaps the name of the workstream should be generalized to "PAP-PDP group". Additionally, there are two possible models to consider - Pull and Push. For example, OPA defines a pull model for a PDP to obtain policy updates from a policy bundle service. In practice, a push model seems critical for real-world scenarios. On Sun, Jun 18, 2023 at 2:54?PM Roland Baum via policy-charter < policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote: > me too! :-D > Am 15.06.23 um 20:51 schrieb Omri Gazitt via policy-charter: > > Me too > > On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 10:35 AM Atul Tulshibagwale via policy-charter < > policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote: > >> Im in >> >> On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 10:34?AM Vittorio Bertocci via policy-charter < >> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote: >> >>> Would love to be on it! >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 10:33 David Brossard via policy-charter < >>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote: >>> >>>> *This message originated outside your organization.* >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Count me in too >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jun 15, 2023, 10:30 AM Shayne Miel (smiel) via policy-charter < >>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Please count me in for the Admin Policy Push group. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks! >>>>> Shayne Miel >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *Shayne Miel* >>>>> / Principal Engineer (he, him, his) >>>>> >>>>> smiel at cisco.com >>>>> >>>>> (919) 923-6230 >>>>> >>>>> cisco.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> *From:* policy-charter on >>>>> behalf of Gerry Gebel via policy-charter < >>>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net> >>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 15, 2023 10:53 AM >>>>> *To:* Policy Charter Mail List >>>>> *Cc:* Gerry Gebel >>>>> *Subject:* [policy-charter] Admin Policy Push Group >>>>> >>>>> Hi all - >>>>> >>>>> Thanks to Andrew Hughes for leading the PEP-PDP Group and those that >>>>> have expressed interest in pursuing that effort. >>>>> >>>>> How about the Admin Policy Push work stream? Who is interested in >>>>> participating? >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Gerry >>>>> -- >>>>> policy-charter mailing list >>>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net >>>>> https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> policy-charter mailing list >>>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net >>>> https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter >>>> >>> -- >>> policy-charter mailing list >>> policy-charter at lists.openid.net >>> https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter >>> >> -- >> policy-charter mailing list >> policy-charter at lists.openid.net >> https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter >> > -- > > > > Omri Gazitt | CEO > > Aserto Inc. | (425) 765-0079 > > -- > policy-charter mailing list > policy-charter at lists.openid.net > https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/policy-charter > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: