<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 7:54 AM, Christopher St John <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ckstjohn@gmail.com">ckstjohn@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div class="Ih2E3d">On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Chris Messina <<a href="mailto:chris.messina@gmail.com">chris.messina@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> If we accept that authentication should eventually move beyond mere<br>
> usernames and passwords, I think that it becomes much more obvious why we<br>
> should think very hard about popping out of desktop apps and into the<br>
> browser (or some context that allows for arbitrary authentication<br>
> mechanisms).<br>
><br>
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</div>Chris, stop being evil :-)<br>
<br>
Yes, you. You're arguing that "in the future" it's "best for the users<br>
whether they like it or not" to "just do what the experts say"<br>
because it "will bring long term benefits although it does make<br>
things harder in the short term"</blockquote><div><br></div><div>... </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><br>
But in the mean time, it's going against a lot of hard-won wisdom<br>
to suggest that making things _less_ convenient and _less_<br>
usable in the short term will win you anything other than a place<br>
on the (very long) list of "great authc/authz ideas that failed to<br>
win popular acceptance because, quite frankly, they were kind of<br>
a pain to use"<br>
<br>
So: make it easy now. Round off all the corners, then grease them.<br>
Optimize for the common case. Cut corners. Without success now,<br>
in the present, there is no glorious OpenID future.</blockquote><div><br></div><div>Hmm. Ok. Fair enough.</div><div><br></div><div>I don't think I'm being "evil", but perhaps not sensible.</div><div><br>
</div><div>I usually prefer to be pragmatic and incremental in my approaches, but the current situation has me somewhat stymied.</div><div><br></div><div>I like the metaphor of CardSpace, and indeed it could be offered at some point, but for whatever reason, no one seems that keen to implement it for mere mortals.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Any insights into why that is?</div><div><br></div><div>Chris</div><div> </div></div>-- <br>Chris Messina<br>Citizen-Participant &<br> Open Web Advocate-at-Large<br><br><a href="http://factoryjoe.com">factoryjoe.com</a> # <a href="http://diso-project.org">diso-project.org</a><br>
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