I'm certainly open to that. Looking forward to hearing from the Fluid folks!<div><br></div><div>Chris<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 4:46 PM, Nate Angell <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ixmati@gmail.com">ixmati@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">I'll let Clayton speak up too, but given my tangential relationship with Fluid, I would think it would be ideal if the OpenID folks could sit down with a few of the Fluid folks to discuss both how OpenID might best address accessibility issues AND how OpenID might be able to support user-centric accessibility preferences (for lack of a better phrase).<div>
<br></div><div>As luck would have it, a few of the Fluid folk are near at least some of the OpenID folk as they are at Berkeley. I'm copying them on this message to see what they say.<div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c">
<br><div><br><div><div>On Nov 26, 2008, at 4:29 PM, Chris Messina wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite">Thanks for the context Nate.<div><br></div><div>On the one hand, we need usability help and best practices for OpenID generally (hence this list). We have a lot of existing behavior in the wild to look at, and we have a small group of people after a UX Summit that we held in charge of coming up with some recommendations for OPs and RPs.</div>
<div><br></div><div>If the Fluid Project could suggest how we might engage with them on evaluating the existing approaches, and then move into making subsequent recommendations on the signin process that would be excellent.</div>
<div><br></div><div>If we could then extend that work to cover SREG and the exchange of profile data from an OP to an RP, and what that experience should ideally look like, then that would be a great secondary task for the Fluid group to assist with.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Where do we begin?</div><div><br></div><div>Chris<br><div><br></div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Nate Angell <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ixmati@gmail.com" target="_blank">ixmati@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">Clayton, glad you posted to the list...I'm a member of the Sakai community and had put it to the fluid folks that they might find value in joining the OpenID community.<div>
<br></div><div>For the OpenID folks, please take Clayton's offer of accessibility help seriously...the Fluid folks are some of the best experts you'll find.</div><div><br><font color="#888888"><div> <span style="border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">
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<div></div><div><div style="word-wrap:break-word">new to this list... a colleague pointed out to me a couple of earlier posts on this<div><br><div>I'm a participant in the Fluid project (<a href="http://www.fluidproject.org" target="_blank">www.fluidproject.org</a>), aimed at providing pluggable UI components with good usability and accessibility baked in</div>
<div>as part of this we have a big interest in making it possible for people to associate information presentation preferences with their id so that they don't have to keep respecifying this info, specifying it in different ways for different sites, etc... this is a pretty big deal for a good many users; browsers can do some of it, but not all, plus one isn't always using one's "own" browser</div>
<div><br></div><div>this is a long term strategic interest, with a good deal of history, eg an ISO standard for specifying the preferences, but we haven't yet found a good way to tie the info into a widely used id framework</div>
<div><br></div><div>any suggestions about approaches to this via openID would be very welcome</div><div><br></div><div>there are a number of accessibility folks working on Fluid, so if there are particular accessibility questions coming from openID we may be able to help, for example by saying something about screen reader views of things</div>
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