<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">It absolutely is. see <A href="http://openid.net/wiki/index.php/User_Experience">http://openid.net/wiki/index.php/User_Experience</A><DIV>We're just trying to do one thing at a time ...</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><DIV><DIV>On Dec 10, 2006, at 11:11, John Panzer wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"> Logged-in states are often signalled with links like "Sign out" or "Sign out <I>nickname</I>" in the header of the page. Is it useful to provide information like the following?<BR> <BR> o The fact that the system has logged the user in with an OpenID, not just a local identifier or nickname<BR> o "Who am I today on this site?"<BR> <BR> -John<BR> <BR> Chris Messina wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE cite="mid1bc4603e0612092025p6a5fee9cm52df81f73c15ef33@mail.gmail.com" type="cite"> <PRE wrap="">Johannes,
This is a great start to begin the conversation with. I appreciate you
taking the time to put these together.
I would ask that we also consider the pre- and post-conditional states
for this UI (i.e. where someone was before arriving and what happens
after they login).
Furthermore, and perhaps most importantly, we need a solution that
survives under various fidelities -- that is, is accessible not just
to javascript-enabled browsers loaded up on your desktop PC, but also
that work on cell phones and other devices where the best we can hope
for is an HTML rendering engine. Under such circumstances, how can we
still consistently maintain an OpenID user experience? And, on the
flip side, as technology allows, how can we enhance the experience
without creating confusion over the authenticity of the protocol or
implementation?
Chris
On 12/8/06, Johannes Ernst <A class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jernst+openid.net@netmesh.us"><jernst+openid.net@netmesh.us></A> wrote:
</PRE> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"> <PRE wrap="">I took the action item to mock up an OpenID login dialog according to
what we discussed in-person at IIW.
You can find it here: <A class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://netmesh.info/jernst-files/openid/login">http://netmesh.info/jernst-files/openid/login</A>-
dialog.html
The idea is that this would get turned into a template that sites
could download and incorporate easily.
Instead of "Help" I decided to write "No password?" -- that makes it
harder for a phisher to add a password field to a pretend OpenID
login dialog, because the user may well remember that not only wasn't
there a field, but it specifically said there wasn't. The link leads
to the generic help/user-education page that we discussed.
Thoughts?
Johannes Ernst
NetMesh Inc.
<A class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://netmesh.info/jernst">http://netmesh.info/jernst</A>
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