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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I’d be up for joining in this podcast too.
I think the UX not just for OpenID login, but for all user-centric identity services
based on user-centric identifiers like personal URLs or i-names, is going to be
a whole new kettle of fish and a hot topic for some time to come.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>=Drummond <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
user-experience-bounces@openid.net [mailto:user-experience-bounces@openid.net] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Johannes Ernst<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, November 05, 2006
5:36 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> OpenID user experience<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: OpenID User
Experiences found in the wild</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Aldo,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>would be glad to participate in one, as usual ;-)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Timing is a bit of a question ... should it be now, where we're
essentially at the point of "we know there is a problem, but don't know
how to solve it yet" or should it be at the point of "here is a first
strawman, please shoot at it?"<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Personally, I think I'd prefer the latter but would be open to either
or both.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Johannes.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Nov 5, 2006, at 7:27, Aldo Casta wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Chris et al., <br>
<br>
I am writing to "unlurk" and because I've been thinking about how I
might<br>
contribute to the discussion. <br>
<br>
Although I've written at length about IP (law not network protocols) at the <br>
user-interface "layer" I'm not sure that would provide much value to
this <br>
discussion at this point. (I'm going to post it on SSRN but if anyone wants <br>
a copy just let me know.)<br>
<br>
However, it occurred to me this morning that perhaps we (Dick, Johannes and <br>
Chris...others?) could produce a podcast to present some of the issues/use
cases/etc. <br>
<br>
I think that might be a good way to ignite more participation in that audio is
a bit <br>
"warmer" medium than email and perhaps might arouse interest in folks
that might <br>
otherwise not engage.<br>
<br>
If this seems like a ploy to promote my podcast, please know that I'd be happy<br>
to do the recording and host the audio file without any association to my
podcast<br>
if that's preferable. <br>
<br>
Let me know if there's any interest.<br>
<br>
-Aldo<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmailquote><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>On 11/5/06, <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Chris
Messina</span></b> <<a href="mailto:chris.messina@gmail.com">chris.messina@gmail.com
</a>> wrote:</span></font></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>It might be good just to collect user stories at this point --<br>
primarily from existing systems like Google Auth, BBAuth, and so on... <br>
so we know what's out there and what user expectations are.<br>
<br>
I don't mind doing a few of these myself -- as usual, it's just a<br>
matter of time. ;)<br>
<br>
Chris<br>
<br>
On 11/4/06, Dick Hardt <<a href="mailto:dick@sxip.com"> dick@sxip.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
> Johannes<br>
><br>
> Just saw this post in my pile of mail. Good start. Would using a<br>
> table to list this out make sense?<br>
><br>
> Perhaps creating categories / labels for each type of user <br>
> interaction so we can contrast different systems and get a best<br>
> practices?<br>
><br>
> -- Dick<br>
><br>
><br>
> On 2-Nov-06, at 8:03 PM, Johannes Ernst wrote:<br>
><br>
> > I started a page to collect what OpenID relying party implementers <br>
> > actually do today in terms of user experience.<br>
> ><br>
> > <a href="http://openid.net/wiki/index.php/User_Experience_In_The_Wild">http://openid.net/wiki/index.php/User_Experience_In_The_Wild</a>
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> ><br>
> > It's very rudimentary. Please add to it!!<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > Cheers,<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > Johannes.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > <br>
> > Johannes Ernst<br>
> > NetMesh Inc.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > <openid-relying-party-authenticated.gif><br>
> > <lid.gif><br>
> ><a href="http://netmesh.info/jernst"> http://netmesh.info/jernst</a><br>
> ><br>
> > _______________________________________________<br>
> > user-experience mailing list<br>
> > <a href="mailto:user-experience@openid.net">user-experience@openid.net
</a><br>
> > <a href="http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/user-experience">http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/user-experience</a><br>
><br>
> _______________________________________________<br>
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