Draft OpenID 2.x User Experience working group charter

Tue Jun 1 16:44:28 UTC 2010

Basically I think there are different motives for the provider, relying
party and the user.  I ultimately think that OpenID solved the identity
problem, but, that was not enough. OpenID failed to provide
a consistent experience for Providers, RPs and Users.  We need to work
better at providing fair and self interested reasons to be consistent.

The provider wants to create a strong active network where people share data
with each other.  Ultimately they want their users to come back for more.

BTW, can we rename this Relying Party? the RP should have a more
recognizable name, maybe social app?

The relying party wants users to start using their app quickly and wants to
leverage existing networks, virality, content and wants to uniquely identify
someone.  They also want a direct way to message the user.

The user wants to feel free to reuse and share their data in a
trusted consistent way.  I think this goes farther than UI, and something
like CC for social data might need to be standardized.  I don't want to read
a TOS every time I use a social app.  I also don't want to have to have my
data in the cloud for this to work.  My browser/ Operating System ( maybe
with a plugin ) should be able to participate without a server.

Ultimately I see Identity as a way to uniquely present oneself as part of a
network.

I see authentication as the technical means to uniquely prove I am the user
with this identity on this network.  The stronger the authentication the
more places OpenID 2.x could go.  I have seen some agile banks looking at
using OpenID, and it would be great to be able to share virtual currencies
via an OpenID.

Validation, I think ties back to "real name" or singular Identity, and I
think this is bad for the web.  I do not think we should have one
valid identity.  I think real people, have many networks of people they
communicate with, and I think there are different social norms for each of
those groups.  I should not have to Identify with everyone on the web as a
CEO, a Web Dev or as an OpenID fan.  I should be able to choose which
network I am identifying from.  I see social networks being a part of
everything we do, from word processing to playing games and there should not
be just a single entry point.

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 9:14 AM, Chris Messina <chris.messina at gmail.com>wrote:

> Depends on how you define those things, I suppose — but generally focused
> on the user interaction around identifying oneself, or one's identity or
> attribute/claims provider, going through the interaction of talking to your
> provider and authenticating, and then having the authentication messages
> passed back to a relying party, followed by information related to whether
> the response passes muster or not.
>
> Sounds convoluted, but we're basically looking at providing some guidelines
> around how to get the UI/UX stuff right around OpenID flows.
>
> Chris
>
> On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 8:32 AM, jDavid <jdavid.net at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Is the goal to focus on Identity, Authentication, or Validation?
>>
>> I would very much like to be involved.
>>
>> On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Chris Messina <chris.messina at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Mike Jones prepared the initial version of this charter, and I took the
>>> liberty of renaming v.Next to 2.x, and made compatibility with 2.x an
>>> explicit goal of this work.
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm reluctant of the applicability of this work to active clients and
>>> have subsequently removed this line:
>>>
>>>
>>> ·        produce user experience guidelines for supporting for a
>>> spectrum of clients, including passive clients per current usage, thin
>>> active clients, and active clients with OP functionality,
>>>
>>>
>>> Feedback welcome.
>>>
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> *
>>> *
>>>
>>> *(a)  **Charter**.*
>>>
>>> *(i)*       *WG name:*  OpenID 2.x User Experience.
>>>
>>> *(ii)*      *Purpose:*  Produce a user experience specification or
>>> family of specifications for OpenID 2.x that address the limitations and
>>> drawbacks present in the OpenID 2.0 that limit OpenID’s applicability,
>>> adoption, usability, privacy, and security. Specific goals are:
>>>
>>> ·        produce user experience guidelines for less intrusive
>>> authentication user experiences than full-page browser redirect,
>>>
>>> ·        produce user experience guidelines for controlled and
>>> uncontrolled release of attributes,
>>>
>>> ·        produce user experience guidelines for use of identities and
>>> attributes by non-browser applications,
>>>
>>> ·        produce user experience guidelines for optimized protocol flows
>>> combining authentication, attribute release, and resource authorization,
>>>
>>> ·        produce user experience guidelines for use of OpenID on mobile
>>> devices,
>>>
>>> ·        seamlessly integrate with and complement the other OpenID 2.x
>>> specifications.
>>>
>>>
>>> Compatibility with OpenID 2.x is an explicit goal for this work.
>>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> *(iii)*     *Scope:*  Produce a current generation OpenID user
>>> experience specification or specifications, consistent with the purpose
>>> statement.
>>>
>>> *(iv)*     *Proposed List of Specifications*:  OpenID 2.x User
>>> Experience and possibly related specifications.
>>>
>>> *(v)*      *Anticipated audience or users of the work:*  Implementers of
>>> OpenID Providers, Relying Parties, Active Clients, and non-browser
>>> applications utilizing OpenID.
>>>
>>> *(vi)*     *Language in which the WG will conduct business*:  English.
>>>
>>> *(vii)*    *Method of work:  *E-mail discussions on the working group
>>> mailing list, working group conference calls, and face-to-face meetings at
>>> the Internet Identity Workshop and OpenID summits.
>>>
>>> *(viii)*   *Basis for determining when the work of the WG is completed:*
>>> Work will not be deemed to be complete until there is a consensus that the
>>> resulting protocol specification or family of specifications fulfills the
>>> working group goals.  Additional proposed changes beyond that initial
>>> consensus will be evaluated on the basis of whether they increase or
>>> decrease consensus within the working group.  The work will be completed
>>> once it is apparent that maximal consensus on the draft has been achieved,
>>> consistent with the purpose and scope.
>>>
>>> *(b)  **Background Information**.*
>>>
>>> *(i)*       *Related work being done in other WGs or organizations*:  Draft
>>> User Interface (UI) Extension<http://wiki.openid.net/OpenID-User-Interface-Work-Group-Proposal>.
>>> Kantara Universal Login Experience (ULX)
>>> <http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/ulx/>working group. RPX
>>> product design <http://rpxnow.com>. Facebook Authentication Guidelines<http://developers.facebook.com/docs/authentication/>.
>>> Google user authentication research<http://sites.google.com/site/oauthgoog/UXFedLogin>
>>> .
>>>
>>> *(ii)*      *Proposers:*
>>>
>>> Chris Messina, chris.messina at gmail.com (chair)
>>>
>>> Dick Hardt, dick.hardt at gmail.com
>>>
>>> *Additional proposers to be added here*
>>>
>>> *(iii)*     *Anticipated Contributions*:  None.
>>>
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