The CardSpace factor

Kaliya * Kaliya at mac.com
Wed Feb 7 07:30:29 UTC 2007


On 2/6/07, Chris Messina <chris.messina at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I would argue that this only accelerates our need to come up with
> documentation, use cases, interfaces-in-the-wild (which I continue to
> collect: http://www.flickr.com/photos/factoryjoe/tags/loginform and
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/factoryjoe/tags/openid), alternative user
> experiences and conceptual work to define the user-side experience of
> OpenID in all its potential, glorious forms.
>
> I would also suggest that CardSpace as it exists today is a
> Microsoft-developed solution -- and hasn't been kissed by the scrutiny
> of the open source community.


The folks working on Higgins, Bandit and OSIS are working on actually
building Open Source implementations of CardSpace.

I would also suggest it is now up to us
> to effectively reverse engineer, document and dissect the research and
> thinking behind CardSpace -- and put it into a form that regular
> OpenID implementors can digest and make use of (I've never been able
> to stomach the M$ docs system).
>
> So, though they are blessed with billions to push into R&D, I would
> conclude that this is simply one large contribution from an important
> community member; we haven't committed anything -- and as the
> foundation charter should set out, you gain your seat at the table
> based on merit, not on the size of your budget.
>
> Chris
>
> On 2/6/07, Johannes Ernst <jernst+openid.net at netmesh.us> wrote:
> > So now that CardSpace (and its eventual equivalent on non-Windows
> > platforms) is part of the OpenID picture, what does this do to the
> > user-experience work on this list?
> >
> > We could ...
> > 1. ignore it
> > 2. say that usernames/passwords aren't a problem any more because
> > CardSpace solves that for us at OPs,
> > 3. broaden the use cases considered to allow OP authentication either
> >      a. via username/password (traditional)
> >      b. via CardSpace
> >      c. via another OpenID authentication process.
> >
> > Of course, I favor #3 or some variation on it. What does everybody
> > else think?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> >
> > Johannes.
> >
> >
> >
> > Johannes Ernst
> > NetMesh Inc.
> >
> >
> >
> >   http://netmesh.info/jernst
> >
> >
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