OpenID User Experiences found in the wild

Mon Nov 6 20:43:53 UTC 2006

Aldo, you are clearly the man with the plan here ... let's go for it!

On Nov 6, 2006, at 12:08, Aldo Castañeda wrote:

> All,
>
> I've made an effort to both summarize what other's have written  
> about doing a podcast and to present some of the practical issues  
> involved. Perhaps this information will make arriving at an agreed  
> course of action easier?
>
>
> Participants:
>  (Thanks to you all as I'm sincerely excited about doing a program  
> with you all!):
>
> Chris Messina
> Johannes Ernst
> Drummond Reed
>
>
> Other issues:
>
> 1. "Timing"
>
> Johannes raised the timing issue and I have a slight preference for  
> jumping  right in and doing an "intro" discussion even in the  
> absence of a "strawman". If the ultimate objective is to encourage  
> wider participation my gut tells me early, open and frank  
> discussion even if it's not entirely focused is a good way to go.
>
> Also please keep in mind that I'm very interested in UX/identity  
> issues, so if there's an interest in doing a series of podcasts on  
> this subject I'll gladly provide the "infrastructure" to make it  
> happen. Perhaps that obviates the "timing" issue?
>
> 2. "Infrastructure"
>
> And now a few words about the "infrastructure" so that we're all on  
> the same page. My current and reasonably stable recording setup  
> permits simultaneous recording of three parties (myself and two  
> callers). Although inexpensive services exist (conference call  
> providers) to add more participants to the call, I've found there's  
> an inverse correlation between the cost of those services and the  
> sound quality that result.
>
> So if having more than 3 callers on the line at the same time is  
> desirable (I personally think 4 participants is a good number for  
> an hour program), I would like to purchase some "recording time"  
> from a professional that can assure high sound quality.
>
> 3. Proposal
>
> In light of the above constraints, I propose:
>
> 3.1. We start with an initial one hour (or less) podcast with the  
> four people that have initially come forward (Chris Messina,  
> Johannes Ernst & Drummond Reed and I).
> 3.2. We start the discussion by providing some perspective as to  
> what prompted the creation of the list and the podcast....What  
> other topics might people like to discuss?
> 3.3. I personally would like to produce something of high quality  
> both in terms of content and sound quality - so I'd be glad to foot  
> the recording costs in exchange for the right (non-exclusive) to  
> distribute it on my feed - Note that all my podcasts are  
> distributed under CreativeCommons  Attribution-NonCommercial- 
> ShareAlike 2.0. so I don't think this is a major limitation, if  
> someone feels it is let's discuss it as I'm very open to alternatives!
>
> 4. Disclosing my interests
>
> I'd like to mention that to date the podcasts that I've produced  
> have an audience of between 500-1,200 listeners (downloads to be  
> more precise). I believe even a small collective effort to get the  
> word about a podcast we do regarding UX will enjoy a much larger  
> audience.
>
> And last but not least I feel I should let everyone know that I  
> haven't used my podcast to promote or advertise anything to date.  
> Although I don't have any immediate plans to do so I am thinking  
> about one day promoting my own services (privacy law consulting  
> most likely) on the podcast, again I have no immediate plans to do so.
>
> I really think this could be a good thing for all involved so I  
> hope we can agree on a path forward.
>
> Best,
>
> -Aldo
>
>
>
> On 11/6/06, Drummond Reed <drummond.reed at cordance.net> wrote:
> Aldo,
>
>
> I'd be up for joining in this podcast too. I think the UX not just  
> for OpenID login, but for all user-centric identity services based  
> on user-centric identifiers like personal URLs or i-names, is going  
> to be a whole new kettle of fish and a hot topic for some time to  
> come.
>
>
> =Drummond
>
>
> From: user-experience-bounces at openid.net [mailto: user-experience- 
> bounces at openid.net] On Behalf Of Johannes Ernst
> Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 5:36 PM
> To: OpenID user experience
> Subject: Re: OpenID User Experiences found in the wild
>
>
> Aldo,
>
>
> would be glad to participate in one, as usual ;-)
>
>
> Timing is a bit of a question ... should it be now, where we're  
> essentially at the point of "we know there is a problem, but don't  
> know how to solve it yet" or should it be at the point of "here is  
> a first strawman, please shoot at it?"
>
>
> Personally, I think I'd prefer the latter but would be open to  
> either or both.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Johannes.
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 5, 2006, at 7:27, Aldo Casta񥤡 wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Chris et al.,
>
> I am writing to "unlurk" and because I've been thinking about how I  
> might
> contribute to the discussion.
>
> Although I've written at length about IP (law not network  
> protocols) at the
> user-interface "layer" I'm not sure that would provide much value  
> to this
> discussion at this point. (I'm going to post it on SSRN but if  
> anyone wants
> a copy just let me know.)
>
> However, it occurred to me this morning that perhaps we (Dick,  
> Johannes and
> Chris...others?) could produce a podcast to present some of the  
> issues/use cases/etc.
>
> I think that might be a good way to ignite more participation in  
> that audio is a bit
> "warmer" medium than email and perhaps might arouse interest in  
> folks that might
> otherwise not engage.
>
> If this seems like a ploy to promote my podcast, please know that  
> I'd be happy
> to do the recording and host the audio file without any association  
> to my podcast
> if that's preferable.
>
> Let me know if there's any interest.
>
> -Aldo
>
>
>
> On 11/5/06, Chris Messina <chris.messina at gmail.com > wrote:
>
> It might be good just to collect user stories at this point --
> primarily from existing systems like Google Auth, BBAuth, and so on...
> so we know what's out there and what user expectations are.
>
> I don't mind doing a few of these myself -- as usual, it's just a
> matter of time. ;)
>
> Chris
>
> On 11/4/06, Dick Hardt < dick at sxip.com> wrote:
> > Johannes
> >
> > Just saw this post in my pile of mail. Good start. Would using a
> > table to list this out make sense?
> >
> > Perhaps creating categories / labels for each type of user
> > interaction so we can contrast different systems and get a best
> > practices?
> >
> > -- Dick
> >
> >
> > On 2-Nov-06, at 8:03 PM, Johannes Ernst wrote:
> >
> > > I started a page to collect what OpenID relying party implementers
> > > actually do today in terms of user experience.
> > >
> > > http://openid.net/wiki/index.php/User_Experience_In_The_Wild
> > >
> > > It's very rudimentary. Please add to it!!
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Johannes.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Johannes Ernst
> > > NetMesh Inc.
> > >
> > >
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