OpenID User Experiences found in the wild

Mon Nov 6 20:08:13 UTC 2006

All,

I've made an effort to both summarize what other's have written about doing
a podcast and to present some of the practical issues involved. Perhaps this
information will make arriving at an agreed course of action easier?

Participants:
 (Thanks to you all as I'm sincerely excited about doing a program with you
all!):

Chris Messina
Johannes Ernst
Drummond Reed

Other issues:

1. "Timing"

Johannes raised the timing issue and I have a slight preference for jumping
right in and doing an "intro" discussion even in the absence of a
"strawman". If the ultimate objective is to encourage wider participation my
gut tells me early, open and frank discussion even if it's not entirely
focused is a good way to go.

Also please keep in mind that I'm very interested in UX/identity issues, so
if there's an interest in doing a series of podcasts on this subject I'll
gladly provide the "infrastructure" to make it happen. Perhaps that obviates
the "timing" issue?

2. "Infrastructure"

And now a few words about the "infrastructure" so that we're all on the same
page. My current and reasonably stable recording setup permits simultaneous
recording of three parties (myself and two callers). Although inexpensive
services exist (conference call providers) to add more participants to the
call, I've found there's an inverse correlation between the cost of those
services and the sound quality that result.

So if having more than 3 callers on the line at the same time is desirable
(I personally think 4 participants is a good number for an hour program), I
would like to purchase some "recording time" from a professional that can
assure high sound quality.

3. Proposal

In light of the above constraints, I propose:

3.1. We start with an initial one hour (or less) podcast with the four
people that have initially come forward (Chris Messina, Johannes Ernst &
Drummond Reed and I).
3.2. We start the discussion by providing some perspective as to what
prompted the creation of the list and the podcast....What other topics might
people like to discuss?
3.3. I personally would like to produce something of high quality both in
terms of content and sound quality - so I'd be glad to foot the recording
costs in exchange for the right (non-exclusive) to distribute it on my feed
- Note that all my podcasts are distributed under CreativeCommons
Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike
2.0. <http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/> so I don't think
this is a major limitation, if someone feels it is let's discuss it as I'm
very open to alternatives!

4. Disclosing my interests

I'd like to mention that to date the podcasts that I've produced have an
audience of between 500-1,200 listeners (downloads to be more precise). I
believe even a small collective effort to get the word about a podcast we do
regarding UX will enjoy a much larger audience.

And last but not least I feel I should let everyone know that I haven't used
my podcast to promote or advertise anything to date. Although I don't have
any immediate plans to do so I am thinking about one day promoting my own
services (privacy law consulting most likely) on the podcast, again I have
no immediate plans to do so.

I really think this could be a good thing for all involved so I hope we can
agree on a path forward.

Best,

-Aldo

On 11/6/06, Drummond Reed <drummond.reed at cordance.net> wrote:
>
>  Aldo,
>
>
>
> I'd be up for joining in this podcast too. I think the UX not just for
> OpenID login, but for all user-centric identity services based on
> user-centric identifiers like personal URLs or i-names, is going to be a
> whole new kettle of fish and a hot topic for some time to come.
>
>
>
> =Drummond
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* user-experience-bounces at openid.net [mailto:
> user-experience-bounces at openid.net] *On Behalf Of *Johannes Ernst
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 05, 2006 5:36 PM
> *To:* OpenID user experience
> *Subject:* Re: OpenID User Experiences found in the wild
>
>
>
> Aldo,
>
>
>
> would be glad to participate in one, as usual ;-)
>
>
>
> Timing is a bit of a question ... should it be now, where we're
> essentially at the point of "we know there is a problem, but don't know how
> to solve it yet" or should it be at the point of "here is a first strawman,
> please shoot at it?"
>
>
>
> Personally, I think I'd prefer the latter but would be open to either or
> both.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
>
>
> Johannes.
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>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 5, 2006, at 7:27, Aldo Casta񥤡 wrote:
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>
>
>  Chris et al.,
>
> I am writing to "unlurk" and because I've been thinking about how I might
> contribute to the discussion.
>
> Although I've written at length about IP (law not network protocols) at
> the
> user-interface "layer" I'm not sure that would provide much value to this
> discussion at this point. (I'm going to post it on SSRN but if anyone
> wants
> a copy just let me know.)
>
> However, it occurred to me this morning that perhaps we (Dick, Johannes
> and
> Chris...others?) could produce a podcast to present some of the issues/use
> cases/etc.
>
> I think that might be a good way to ignite more participation in that
> audio is a bit
> "warmer" medium than email and perhaps might arouse interest in folks that
> might
> otherwise not engage.
>
> If this seems like a ploy to promote my podcast, please know that I'd be
> happy
> to do the recording and host the audio file without any association to my
> podcast
> if that's preferable.
>
> Let me know if there's any interest.
>
> -Aldo
>
>
>  On 11/5/06, *Chris Messina* <chris.messina at gmail.com > wrote:
>
> It might be good just to collect user stories at this point --
> primarily from existing systems like Google Auth, BBAuth, and so on...
> so we know what's out there and what user expectations are.
>
> I don't mind doing a few of these myself -- as usual, it's just a
> matter of time. ;)
>
> Chris
>
> On 11/4/06, Dick Hardt < dick at sxip.com> wrote:
> > Johannes
> >
> > Just saw this post in my pile of mail. Good start. Would using a
> > table to list this out make sense?
> >
> > Perhaps creating categories / labels for each type of user
> > interaction so we can contrast different systems and get a best
> > practices?
> >
> > -- Dick
> >
> >
> > On 2-Nov-06, at 8:03 PM, Johannes Ernst wrote:
> >
> > > I started a page to collect what OpenID relying party implementers
> > > actually do today in terms of user experience.
> > >
> > > http://openid.net/wiki/index.php/User_Experience_In_The_Wild
> > >
> > > It's very rudimentary. Please add to it!!
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Johannes.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Johannes Ernst
> > > NetMesh Inc.
> > >
> > >
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> > > <lid.gif>
> > > http://netmesh.info/jernst
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