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    <font face="Arial">I can live with 'Native Single Authorization
      Agent' <br>
      <br>
      I'll let my co-proposers indicate whether they have any concerns.<br>
      <br>
      paul<br>
      <br>
      ps thanks for the feedback Tony - as valuable as ever<br>
    </font><br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/17/13 5:05 PM, Mike Jones wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Actually,
            per the rules, the working group *<b>hasn’t</b>* been
            approved yet, Nat’s note notwithstanding.  I say that
            because you updated the proposed charter on 7/4, Paul, to
            reflect my comments and the two week auto-approval period if
            there is no action from the specifications council has not
            yet elapsed.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Accordingly,
            as a specs council member, I hereby file an objection to the
            name Native Application SSO because I believe it is less
            accurate than it could be, and request that the name be
            changed to “</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Native
            Single Authorization Agent</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">”,
            with the mailing list name openid-specs-nssa.  If those
            changes are acceptable to the proposers, I’ll withdraw my
            objection.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">                                                           
            -- Mike<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
            Chuck Mortimore [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:cmortimore@salesforce.com">mailto:cmortimore@salesforce.com</a>]
            <br>
            <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 17, 2013 1:59 PM<br>
            <b>To:</b> Paul Madsen<br>
            <b>Cc:</b> Mike Jones; John Bradley; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:specs@openid.net">specs@openid.net</a>; John
            Ehrig; Don Thibeau<br>
            <b>Subject:</b> Re: [OIDFSC] Native application SSO Working
            Group<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">Amen!<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">-cmort<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Paul
              Madsen <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:paulmadsen@rogers.com" target="_blank">paulmadsen@rogers.com</a>>
              wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
                  style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">this
                  reminds me of the IETF SCIM-reacronymizing exercise<br>
                  <br>
                  the group was approved & chartered under the name
                  'Native SSO' . Those who understand what the intent of
                  the work is all agree that the name is an accurate
                  description of the work.<br>
                  <br>
                  Tony didnt like the name as proposed in the charter -
                  but it was approved nonetheless.
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  So why are we still arguing?<span
                    style="color:#888888"><br>
                    <br>
                    <span class="hoenzb">paul </span><br>
                  </span><br>
                  ps. I wonder if the proposers of 'Backplane', or ' </span>AB/Connect<span
style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">' ,both
                  wonderfully descriptive, faced the same</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal">On 7/17/13 3:07 PM, Mike Jones
                      wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">So
                          you’d prefer that the work be called something
                          closer to “Native Application Authorization”?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
                              Anthony Nadalin
                              <br>
                              <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 17, 2013
                              11:50 AM<br>
                              <b>To:</b> Paul Madsen; Don Thibeau<br>
                              <b>Cc:</b> Mike Jones; John Bradley; <a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:specs@openid.net"
                                target="_blank">
                                specs@openid.net</a>; John Ehrig<br>
                              <b>Subject:</b> RE: [OIDFSC] Native
                              application SSO Working Group</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
                          would have been too young back in the 90s</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
                          don’t like SSO in the name as this is
                          basically this is just a way to authorize an
                          app to interact with one or more resource
                          serves on your behalf</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          name="13fee6bb628f6a56__MailEndCompose"></a><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">
                              Paul Madsen [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:paulmadsen@rogers.com"
                                target="_blank">mailto:paulmadsen@rogers.com</a>]
                              <br>
                              <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 17, 2013
                              11:39 AM<br>
                              <b>To:</b> Don Thibeau<br>
                              <b>Cc:</b> Anthony Nadalin; Mike Jones;
                              John Bradley; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:specs@openid.net"
                                target="_blank">
                                specs@openid.net</a>; John Ehrig<br>
                              <b>Subject:</b> Re: [OIDFSC] Native
                              application SSO Working Group</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">I am 99%
                          confident that *our* beloved Tony was not part
                          of the R&B group from Oakland, briefly
                          popular in the 90s.....<br>
                          <br>
                          <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony%21_Toni%21_Ton%C3%A9"
                            target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony!_Toni!_Ton%C3%A9</a>!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                          style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On
                          7/17/13 2:33 PM, Don Thibeau wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                          style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Paul
                          <o:p></o:p></p>
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                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I
                            don't think "Tony Tony Tony"  is a good name
                            for a working group :)<o:p></o:p></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Don
                                  Thibeau</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""><a
                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="http://openid.net"
                                    target="_blank">The OpenID
                                    Foundation</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On
                                Jul 17, 2013, at 2:30 PM, Paul Madsen
                                wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Tony Tony
                                    Tony, how I've missed our time
                                    together<br>
                                    <br>
                                    The WG's mandate is to profile OIDC
                                    to enable an SSO model for native
                                    mobile applications.
                                    <br>
                                    <br>
                                    Can you suggest a better (concise
                                    & memorable) descriptor for a
                                    mail list identifier?<br>
                                    <br>
                                    paul</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On
                                    7/17/13 2:17 PM, Anthony Nadalin
                                    wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                <blockquote
                                  style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">That’s
                                      a totally useless name
                                    </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <div>
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                                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">
                                          <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                            href="mailto:openid-specs-bounces@lists.openid.net"
                                            target="_blank">openid-specs-bounces@lists.openid.net</a>
                                          [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                            href="mailto:openid-specs-bounces@lists.openid.net"
                                            target="_blank">mailto:openid-specs-bounces@lists.openid.net</a>]
                                          <b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul
                                          Madsen<br>
                                          <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July
                                          17, 2013 10:59 AM<br>
                                          <b>To:</b> Mike Jones<br>
                                          <b>Cc:</b> John Bradley; <a
                                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                                            href="mailto:specs@openid.net"
                                            target="_blank">specs@openid.net</a>;
                                          John Ehrig; Don Thibeau<br>
                                          <b>Subject:</b> Re: [OIDFSC]
                                          Native application SSO Working
                                          Group</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">that list
                                      name is fine<br>
                                      <br>
                                      thanks</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On
                                      7/17/13 1:51 PM, Mike Jones wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                    style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">John,
                                        are you able to create the new
                                        mailing list at
                                        <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          href="http://lists.openid.net"
                                          target="_blank">lists.openid.net</a>
                                        or do we have to ask
                                        <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          href="mailto:support@osuosl.org"
                                          target="_blank">support@osuosl.org</a>
                                        for the list creation?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Paul
                                        and other WG creators, what name
                                        do you want the list to have? 
                                        openid-specs-native-sso?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">                                                           
                                        -- Mike</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                    <div>
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                                        style="border:none;border-top:solid
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                                          style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
                                            Don Thibeau [<a
                                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              href="mailto:don@oidf.org"
                                              target="_blank">mailto:don@oidf.org</a>]
                                            <br>
                                            <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July
                                            17, 2013 5:03 AM<br>
                                            <b>To:</b> Paul Madsen<br>
                                            <b>Cc:</b> n-sakimura; John
                                            Ehrig; <a
                                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              href="mailto:openid-specs@lists.openid.net"
                                              target="_blank">
openid-specs@lists.openid.net</a>; John Bradley; Mike Jones<br>
                                            <b>Subject:</b> Re: [OIDFSC]
                                            Native application SSO
                                            Working Group</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                      </div>
                                    </div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">John
                                      Ehrig can set up the web site
                                      space and the online Docusign
                                      process for IPR collection.  If
                                      done right away it saves all
                                      concerned lots of time and hassle.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                      <div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Don
                                              Thibeau</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                        </div>
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                                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""><a
                                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                href="http://openid.net/"
                                                target="_blank">The
                                                OpenID Foundation</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                                          style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                      </div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                      <div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On
                                            Jul 17, 2013, at 7:59 AM,
                                            Paul Madsen wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                                          style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>
                                          <br>
                                          <o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Thanks Nat,
                                              <br>
                                              <br>
                                              Don, can you direct me to
                                              whomever I should work
                                              with on the WG list &
                                              page logistics?<br>
                                              <br>
                                              Paul</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On
                                              7/16/13 6:08 AM,
                                              n-sakimura wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                          <blockquote
                                            style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt">The
                                              WG formation is deemed to
                                              be approved per section
                                              4.2 of the OpenID Process
                                              Document v.1.5 of 2009.
                                              <br>
                                              <br>
                                              A new mailing list should
                                              be established promptly
                                              per section 4.3 of the
                                              above document. Also, a WG
                                              web pages should be set up
                                              at
                                              <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://openid.net/" target="_blank">openid.net</a>. You should
                                              also ask the secretary of
                                              the foundation to announce
                                              the first meeting of the
                                              WG, in which scope
                                              approval and the chairs
                                              selection should be done.
                                              <br>
                                              <br>
                                              Note: the first meeting
                                              can only be done after the
                                              WG has collected the IPR
                                              agreement from the
                                              participants, so it may
                                              not be as quick as you may
                                              wish, but it has to be
                                              done. BTW, NRI's agreement
                                              is already in as we have a
                                              blanket agreement like
                                              Google.
                                              <br>
                                              <br>
                                              Nat <br>
                                              <br>
                                              (2013/07/15 14:56), Paul
                                              Madsen wrote: <br>
                                              <br>
                                              <o:p></o:p></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt">Next
                                              steps?
                                              <br>
                                              <br>
                                              ----------- <br>
                                              Paul Madsen <br>
                                              Ping Identity <br>
                                              <br>
                                              Anthony Nadalin<a
                                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                href="mailto:tonynad@microsoft.com"
                                                target="_blank"><tonynad@microsoft.com></a> 
                                              wrote:
                                              <br>
                                              <br>
                                              <br>
                                              <o:p></o:p></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt">I
                                              believe if you dig you
                                              will see that there is
                                              potential for IPR from
                                              both Apple and Facebook.
                                              <br>
                                              <br>
                                              -----Original Message-----
                                              <br>
                                              From: <a
                                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                href="mailto:openid-specs-bounces@lists.openid.net"
                                                target="_blank">openid-specs-bounces@lists.openid.net</a>
                                              [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:openid-specs-bounces@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">mailto:openid-specs-bounces@lists.openid.net</a>]
                                              On Behalf Of n-sakimura
                                              <br>
                                              Sent: Wednesday, July 3,
                                              2013 10:20 PM <br>
                                              To: <a
                                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                href="mailto:openid-specs@lists.openid.net"
                                                target="_blank">openid-specs@lists.openid.net</a>
                                              <br>
                                              Subject: Re: [OIDFSC]
                                              Native application SSO
                                              Working Group <br>
                                              <br>
                                              Could you kindly spell it
                                              out? <br>
                                              <br>
                                               From what I have been
                                              hearing, Facebook was just
                                              using fast application
                                              switch, which is nothing
                                              more than Self-issued
                                              thing that we have, and
                                              iOS's native login support
                                              given to facebook,
                                              twitter, and Weibo.
                                              <br>
                                              Perhaps you are thinking
                                              of something else. <br>
                                              <br>
                                              Of course, I could be
                                              complete wrong. I should
                                              probably read <br>
                                                  <a
                                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                href="https://developers.facebook.com/docs/howtos/ios-6/"
                                                target="_blank">
https://developers.facebook.com/docs/howtos/ios-6/</a> <br>
                                              and <br>
                                              <br>
                                              <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://developer.apple.com/library/ios/#documentation/Social/Reference/Social_Framework/_index.html%23//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40012233"
                                                target="_blank">http://developer.apple.com/library/ios/#documentation/Social/Reference/Social_Framework/_index.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40012233</a>
                                              <br>
                                              <br>
                                              as well. <br>
                                              <br>
                                              Having said that, if
                                              Apple's interface is not
                                              open, perhaps it is a task
                                              for an industry consortia
                                              like OpenID Foundation to
                                              go and ask Apple to open
                                              up the API for other IdPs
                                              as well. Do not know if
                                              they are going to listen,
                                              but still, it might be our
                                              duty to try. <br>
                                              <br>
                                              Nat <br>
                                              <br>
                                              (2013/07/04 7:30), Anthony
                                              Nadalin wrote: <br>
                                              <br>
                                              <o:p></o:p></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt">I
                                              also have a concern that
                                              we might be infringing on
                                              the Facebook SSO
                                              <br>
                                              (iOS) IPR with this
                                              effort. <o:p></o:p></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><br>
                                              <br>
                                              <br>
                                              -- <br>
                                              Nat Sakimura (<a
                                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                href="mailto:n-sakimura@nri.co.jp"
                                                target="_blank">n-sakimura@nri.co.jp</a>)
                                              <br>
                                              Nomura Research Institute,
                                              Ltd. <br>
                                              <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:+81-3-6274-1412" target="_blank">Tel:+81-3-6274-1412</a> Fax:<a
                                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                href="tel:%2B81-3-6274-1547"
                                                target="_blank">+81-3-6274-1547</a>
                                              <br>
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                </blockquote>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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