Thin clients do some of the discovery / UX for the user as opposed to passive clients that have no idea that OpenID is happening, or active cients where the desktop client is the OP.<div><br></div><div>The WG was to look at UX for v.Next which will have active and thin clients (which is why I don't think it should be called 2.x) :)</div>
<div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Gabe Grayum <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ggrayum@gmail.com">ggrayum@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><br></div><div><font face="Arial" size="4"><span style="font-size:14px">First off, I'm not sure what precisely is meant by thin active clients, and active clients with OP functionality. Perhaps someone could provide more detail?</span></font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="4"><span style="font-size:14px">Defining UX guidelines for identity in the browser seems like a related-but-different problem than improving the current OpenID Flow UX. However, I also agree with Mike's comment here. Perhaps the line could be rewritten to focus on the current flow and consider active clients from the perspective of how they change this flow?</span></font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="4"><span style="font-size:14px"><br></span></font></div><font color="#888888"><div><font face="Arial" size="4"><span style="font-size:14px">Gabe Grayum</span></font></div><div><font face="Arial" size="4"><span style="font-size:14px">Janrain</span></font></div>
<br></font><div><div><div></div><div class="h5"><div>On Jun 1, 2010, at 9:37 AM, Mike Jones wrote:</div><br></div></div><blockquote type="cite"><span style="border-collapse:separate;font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple">
<div><div></div><div class="h5"><div><div style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;color:rgb(31, 73, 125)">Hi Chris,</span></div>
<div style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"> </span></div>
<div style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;color:rgb(31, 73, 125)">Thanks for getting this out.</span></div>
<div style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"> </span></div>
<div style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;color:rgb(31, 73, 125)">In my view, you should leave support for active clients in scope for consideration by the working group since having an active client definitely should impact the RP user experience. For instance, if you have identity in the browser, you probably want the RP to be aware of it and delegate some or all of the identity UX to the active client, rather than handling it itself by putting up a NASCAR screen, etc.</span></div>
<div style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"> </span></div>
<div style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"> Thanks,</span></div>
<div style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"> -- Mike</span></div>
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<div style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt"><b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma, sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma, sans-serif"><span> </span><a href="mailto:openid-specs-ui-bounces@lists.openid.net" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">openid-specs-ui-bounces@lists.openid.net</a><span> </span>[mailto:<a href="mailto:openid-specs-ui-bounces@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">openid-specs-ui-bounces@lists.openid.net</a>]<span> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span> </span></b>Chris Messina<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span> </span>Monday, May 31, 2010 4:40 PM<br><b>To:</b><span> </span>Dick Hardt<br><b>Cc:</b><span> </span><a href="mailto:specs-council@openid.net" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">specs-council@openid.net</a>;<span> </span><a href="mailto:openid-specs@lists.openid.net" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">openid-specs@lists.openid.net</a>;<span> </span><a href="mailto:specs-ui@lists.openid.net" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">specs-ui@lists.openid.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span> </span>Re: [Specs-ui] [OIDFSC] Draft OpenID 2.x User Experience working group charter</span></div></div><div style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt">
</div><div style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt">No, there hasn't been any consensus about renaming it. I'm putting it out there as a draft for discussion.</div>
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I'll take that as one vote for keeping that line in the charter. Looking forward to other feedback!</div></div><div><div style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt">
</div></div><div><div style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt">Chris</div><div><div style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt">
</div><div><div style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt">On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 4:28 PM, Dick Hardt <<a href="mailto:dick.hardt@gmail.com" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">dick.hardt@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div>
<div><div style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt">Chris, </div><div><div style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt">
</div></div><div><div style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt">I have not seen any consensus to renaming v.Next to 2.x. Having said that, I don't think this WG needs to have a version does it?</div>
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I think this work would be really useful to the full spectrum of clients.</div></div><div><div style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt">
</div></div><div><div style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt"><span style="color:rgb(136, 136, 136)">-- Dick</span></div>
<div><div><div style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt"> </div><div><div style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt">
</div><div><div><div style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt">On 2010-05-31, at 3:27 PM, Chris Messina wrote:</div></div><div style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt">
<br><br></div><div><div style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt">Mike Jones prepared the initial version of this charter, and I took the liberty of renaming v.Next to 2.x, and made compatibility with 2.x an explicit goal of this work.</div>
</div><div><div style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt"> </div></div><div><div style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt">
I'm reluctant of the applicability of this work to active clients and have subsequently removed this line:</div></div><div><div style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt">
</div></div><div><div style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt">· produce user experience guidelines for supporting for a spectrum of clients, including passive clients per current usage, thin active clients, and active clients with OP functionality,</div>
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Feedback welcome.</div></div><div><div style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt"> </div></div><div><div style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt">
Chris</div></div><div><div style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt"> </div></div><div><div style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt">
<b>(a) <span> </span><i><u>Charter</u></i>.</b></div></div><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0.4in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;margin-bottom:1.2pt"><b><span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif">(i)</span></b><span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif"> <span> </span><b>WG name:</b> OpenID 2.x User Experience.</span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0.4in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;margin-bottom:1.2pt"><b><span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif">(ii)</span></b><span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif"> <span> </span><b>Purpose:</b> Produce a user experience specification or family of specifications for OpenID 2.x that address the limitations and drawbacks present in the OpenID 2.0 that limit OpenID’s applicability, adoption, usability, privacy, and security. Specific goals are:</span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;margin-bottom:1.2pt"><span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:'Lucida Grande', serif">·</span><span style="font-size:5.5pt"> <span> </span></span><span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif">produce user experience guidelines for less intrusive authentication user experiences than full-page browser redirect,</span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;margin-bottom:1.2pt"><span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:'Lucida Grande', serif">·</span><span style="font-size:5.5pt"> <span> </span></span><span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif">produce user experience guidelines for controlled and uncontrolled release of attributes,</span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;margin-bottom:1.2pt"><span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:'Lucida Grande', serif">·</span><span style="font-size:5.5pt"> <span> </span></span><span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif">produce user experience guidelines for use of identities and attributes by non-browser applications,</span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;margin-bottom:1.2pt"><span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:'Lucida Grande', serif">·</span><span style="font-size:5.5pt"> <span> </span></span><span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif">produce user experience guidelines for optimized protocol flows combining authentication, attribute release, and resource authorization,</span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;margin-bottom:1.2pt"><span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:'Lucida Grande', serif">·</span><span style="font-size:5.5pt"> <span> </span></span><span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif">produce user experience guidelines for use of OpenID on mobile devices,</span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;margin-bottom:1.2pt"><span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:'Lucida Grande', serif">·</span><span style="font-size:5.5pt"> <span> </span></span><span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif">seamlessly integrate with and complement the other OpenID 2.x specifications.</span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0.4in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;margin-bottom:1.2pt;min-height:15px"><span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif"> </span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0.4in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;margin-bottom:1.2pt">
<span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif">Compatibility with OpenID 2.x is an explicit goal for this work.</span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0.4in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;margin-bottom:1.2pt;min-height:15px">
<span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif"> </span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0.4in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;margin-bottom:1.2pt"><b><span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif">(iii)</span></b><span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif"> <span> </span><b>Scope:</b> Produce a current generation OpenID user experience specification or specifications, consistent with the purpose statement.</span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0.4in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;margin-bottom:1.2pt"><b><span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif">(iv)</span></b><span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif"> <span> </span><b>Proposed List of Specifications</b>: OpenID 2.x User Experience and possibly related specifications.</span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0.4in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;margin-bottom:1.2pt"><b><span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif">(v)</span></b><span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif"> <span> </span><b>Anticipated audience or users of the work:</b> Implementers of OpenID Providers, Relying Parties, Active Clients, and non-browser applications utilizing OpenID.</span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0.4in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;margin-bottom:1.2pt"><b><span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif">(vi)</span></b><span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif"> <span> </span><b>Language in which the WG will conduct business</b>: English.</span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0.4in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;margin-bottom:1.2pt"><b><span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif">(vii)</span></b><span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif"> <span> </span><b>Method of work: <span> </span></b>E-mail discussions on the working group mailing list, working group conference calls, and face-to-face meetings at the Internet Identity Workshop and OpenID summits.</span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0.4in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;margin-bottom:1.2pt"><b><span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif">(viii)</span></b><span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif"> <span> </span><b>Basis for determining when the work of the WG is completed:</b> Work will not be deemed to be complete until there is a consensus that the resulting protocol specification or family of specifications fulfills the working group goals. Additional proposed changes beyond that initial consensus will be evaluated on the basis of whether they increase or decrease consensus within the working group. The work will be completed once it is apparent that maximal consensus on the draft has been achieved, consistent with the purpose and scope.</span></p>
<div><div style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt"><b>(b) <span> </span><i><u>Background Information</u></i>.</b></div></div>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0.4in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;margin-bottom:1.2pt"><b><span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif">(i)</span></b><span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif"> <span> </span><b>Related work being done in other WGs or organizations</b>: <span> </span><a href="http://wiki.openid.net/OpenID-User-Interface-Work-Group-Proposal" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">Draft User Interface (UI) Extension</a>.<span> </span><a href="http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/ulx/" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">Kantara Universal Login Experience (ULX)<span> </span></a>working group.<span> </span><a href="http://rpxnow.com/" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">RPX product design</a>.<span> </span><a href="http://developers.facebook.com/docs/authentication/" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">Facebook Authentication Guidelines</a>.<span> </span><a href="http://sites.google.com/site/oauthgoog/UXFedLogin" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">Google user authentication research</a>.</span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0.4in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;margin-bottom:1.2pt"><b><span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif">(ii)</span></b><span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif"> <span> </span><b>Proposers:</b></span></p>
<div style="margin-left:0.4in"><div style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt">Chris Messina,<span> </span><a href="mailto:chris.messina@gmail.com" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(0, 101, 204)">chris.messina@gmail.com</span></a><span> </span>(chair)</div>
</div><div style="margin-left:0.4in"><div style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt"><span style="color:black">Dick Hardt,<span> </span><a href="mailto:dick.hardt@gmail.com" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">dick.hardt@gmail.com</a></span><span style="color:rgb(0, 101, 204)"></span></div>
</div><div style="margin-left:0.4in"><div style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt"><i>Additional proposers to be added here</i></div>
</div><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0.4in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;margin-bottom:1.2pt"><b><span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif">(iii)</span></b><span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif"> <span> </span><b>Anticipated Contributions</b>: None.</span></p>
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