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color:#1F497D">Hi Chris,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D">Thanks for getting this out.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D">In my view, you should leave support for active clients in scope for consideration by the working group since having an active client definitely should impact
the RP user experience. For instance, if you have identity in the browser, you probably want the RP to be aware of it and delegate some or all of the identity UX to the active client, rather than handling it itself by putting up a NASCAR screen, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D"> Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D"> -- Mike<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> openid-specs-ui-bounces@lists.openid.net [mailto:openid-specs-ui-bounces@lists.openid.net]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Chris Messina<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 31, 2010 4:40 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Dick Hardt<br>
<b>Cc:</b> specs-council@openid.net; openid-specs@lists.openid.net; specs-ui@lists.openid.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Specs-ui] [OIDFSC] Draft OpenID 2.x User Experience working group charter<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">No, there hasn't been any consensus about renaming it. I'm putting it out there as a draft for discussion.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I'll take that as one vote for keeping that line in the charter. Looking forward to other feedback!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 4:28 PM, Dick Hardt <<a href="mailto:dick.hardt@gmail.com">dick.hardt@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I have not seen any consensus to renaming v.Next to 2.x. Having said that, I don't think this WG needs to have a version does it?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I think this work would be really useful to the full spectrum of clients.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#888888">-- Dick</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 2010-05-31, at 3:27 PM, Chris Messina wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Mike Jones prepared the initial version of this charter, and I took the liberty of renaming v.Next to 2.x, and made compatibility with 2.x an explicit goal of this work.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I'm reluctant of the applicability of this work to active clients and have subsequently removed this line:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">· produce user experience guidelines for supporting for a spectrum of clients, including passive clients per current usage, thin active clients, and active clients with OP functionality,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Feedback welcome.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>(a) <i><u>Charter</u></i>.</b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">(i)</span></b><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">
<b>WG name:</b> OpenID 2.x User Experience.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">(ii)</span></b><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">
<b>Purpose:</b> Produce a user experience specification or family of specifications for OpenID 2.x that address the limitations and drawbacks present in the OpenID 2.0 that limit OpenID’s applicability, adoption, usability, privacy, and security. Specific
goals are:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Grande","serif"">·</span><span style="font-size:5.5pt">
</span><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">produce user experience guidelines for less intrusive authentication user experiences than full-page browser redirect,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Grande","serif"">·</span><span style="font-size:5.5pt">
</span><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">produce user experience guidelines for controlled and uncontrolled release of attributes,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">produce user experience guidelines for use of identities and attributes by non-browser applications,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">produce user experience guidelines for optimized protocol flows combining authentication, attribute release, and resource authorization,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">produce user experience guidelines for use of OpenID on mobile devices,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">seamlessly integrate with and complement the other OpenID 2.x specifications.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Compatibility with OpenID 2.x is an explicit goal for this work.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">(iii)</span></b><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">
<b>Scope:</b> Produce a current generation OpenID user experience specification or specifications, consistent with the purpose statement.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">(iv)</span></b><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">
<b>Proposed List of Specifications</b>: OpenID 2.x User Experience and possibly related specifications.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">(v)</span></b><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">
<b>Anticipated audience or users of the work:</b> Implementers of OpenID Providers, Relying Parties, Active Clients, and non-browser applications utilizing OpenID.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">(vi)</span></b><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">
<b>Language in which the WG will conduct business</b>: English.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">(vii)</span></b><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">
<b>Method of work: </b>E-mail discussions on the working group mailing list, working group conference calls, and face-to-face meetings at the Internet Identity Workshop and OpenID summits.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">(viii)</span></b><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">
<b>Basis for determining when the work of the WG is completed:</b> Work will not be deemed to be complete until there is a consensus that the resulting protocol specification or family of specifications fulfills the working group goals. Additional proposed
changes beyond that initial consensus will be evaluated on the basis of whether they increase or decrease consensus within the working group. The work will be completed once it is apparent that maximal consensus on the draft has been achieved, consistent
with the purpose and scope.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">(i)</span></b><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">
<b>Related work being done in other WGs or organizations</b>: <a href="http://wiki.openid.net/OpenID-User-Interface-Work-Group-Proposal" target="_blank">
Draft User Interface (UI) Extension</a>. <a href="http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/ulx/" target="_blank">
Kantara Universal Login Experience (ULX) </a>working group. <a href="http://rpxnow.com/" target="_blank">
RPX product design</a>. <a href="http://developers.facebook.com/docs/authentication/" target="_blank">
Facebook Authentication Guidelines</a>. <a href="http://sites.google.com/site/oauthgoog/UXFedLogin" target="_blank">
Google user authentication research</a>.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">(ii)</span></b><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">
<b>Proposers:</b><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Chris Messina, <a href="mailto:chris.messina@gmail.com" target="_blank">
<span style="color:#0065CC">chris.messina@gmail.com</span></a> (chair)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Dick Hardt, <a href="mailto:dick.hardt@gmail.com" target="_blank">
dick.hardt@gmail.com</a></span><span style="color:#0065CC"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">(iii)</span></b><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">
<b>Anticipated Contributions</b>: None.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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