Yes with all due respect to you Eran, "Marketing" the subject as quoted elsewhere on this thread, like you think, is not the solution to the problem. <div><br></div><div>There was a Company whose management policy was to hire the top management graduates of the US. They used hire graduates by the dozens, they used tell these guys to "THINK OUT OF THE BOX". The problem is that they "LOST SIGHT OF THE BOX". </div>
<div><br></div><div>The name of the Company was Enron. So let us not talk "Marketing, Management, MBA" stories here.</div><div><br></div><div>I see Openid as a Startup. Right!</div><div><br></div><div>And like all startups OpenID need's "Angels" to invest in it. Unfortunately all the OpenID "Angels's" have names attached to them. Like "Google. Facebook, Microsoft, Yahoo etc etc etc"</div>
<div><br></div><div>And this is unfortunately the "SAD STORY OF OPENID". </div><div><br></div><div>"A STORY OF SELLING OUR SOULS TO THE CORPORATES".</div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 11:23 AM, Eran Hammer-Lahav <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:eran@hueniverse.com">eran@hueniverse.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">I am not sure what this means.<br>
<br>
As someone in a leadership position within the organization and community, who also have a financial investment in this work, what would *you* like to do? Both options? Pick one?<br>
<br>
We know who supports each option based on the proposers list. We also know that Dick objects to the OpenID Connect proposal (and I completely respect his well-argued position - I just don't agree with him). It would be helpful if people clearly expressed where they stand on this.<br>
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> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: Brian Kissel [mailto:<a href="mailto:bkissel@janrain.com">bkissel@janrain.com</a>]<br>
> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 10:12 PM<br>
> To: Eran Hammer-Lahav; Dick Hardt; Allen Tom<br>
> Cc: Joseph Smarr; OpenID Board (public); <a href="mailto:openid-specs@lists.openid.net">openid-specs@lists.openid.net</a><br>
> Subject: RE: [OpenID board] Why Connect?<br>
><br>
> It seems to me that the broader market is coalescing around OpenID as the<br>
> brand for open standards-based user managed identity in a B2C<br>
> environment.<br>
> My take away from the last couple of board meetings is that we should<br>
> embrace that, not avoid it. Most RPs and end users don't really care what's<br>
> under the hood, they want solutions that address their business and<br>
> personal objectives. Let's see how we can best leverage the open standards<br>
> work being developed and deployed by a number of stakeholders to address<br>
> real market needs and benefits.<br>
><br>
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><br>
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> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: <a href="mailto:openid-specs-bounces@lists.openid.net">openid-specs-bounces@lists.openid.net</a><br>
> [mailto:<a href="mailto:openid-specs-bounces@lists.openid.net">openid-specs-bounces@lists.openid.net</a>] On Behalf Of Eran<br>
> Hammer-Lahav<br>
> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 7:11 PM<br>
> To: Dick Hardt; Allen Tom<br>
> Cc: Joseph Smarr; OpenID Board (public); <a href="mailto:openid-specs@lists.openid.net">openid-specs@lists.openid.net</a><br>
> Subject: RE: [OpenID board] Why Connect?<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> > -----Original Message-----<br>
> > From: <a href="mailto:openid-specs-bounces@lists.openid.net">openid-specs-bounces@lists.openid.net</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:openid-specs-">openid-specs-</a><br>
> > <a href="mailto:bounces@lists.openid.net">bounces@lists.openid.net</a>] On Behalf Of Dick Hardt<br>
> > Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 6:29 PM<br>
><br>
> > Labelling this as OpenID seems to be hijacking the OpenID brand.<br>
><br>
> And this is where you got it all wrong! Labeling this as OpenID is giving the<br>
> OpenID brand once last chance to offer something useful and meaningful<br>
> that developers actually use.<br>
><br>
> Calling it OAuth Connect would result in hijacking the community. I'm clearly<br>
> willing to do that (though my presence here should indicate my interest in<br>
> saving the OpenID brand). The question is, is this something the OpenID<br>
> community and board wants to risk?<br>
><br>
> EHL<br>
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