<html><head><base href="x-msg://321/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">That would be a capability served by OAuth. The user would delegate to the device to make API calls on behalf of the user for specific services. It is not a general purpose computing device that is acting as the user's identity agent.<div><br><div><div>On 2010-05-24, at 3:59 PM, Anthony Nadalin wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="WordSection1"><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">These power grid devices are end points and need to logon to services to report, so they serve as servers and users<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div><div style="border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; border-left-style: none; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; border-top-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding-top: 3pt; padding-right: 0in; padding-bottom: 0in; padding-left: 0in; "><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Dick Hardt [mailto:dick.hardt@gmail.com]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, May 24, 2010 3:33 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Anthony Nadalin<br><b>Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>OpenID Specs Mailing List<br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: OpenID v.Next Core Protocol WG Charter :: DRAFT 2<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">On 2010-05-24, at 7:51 AM, Anthony Nadalin wrote:<o:p></o:p></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><br><br><o:p></o:p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 2pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size: 13pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; "> </span></span><span style="font-size: 13pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; ">ensure the use of OpenID on mobile devices,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 2pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 13pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; ">Ensure the use of OpenID on devices</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 2pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 13pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; "> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 2pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 13pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; ">Would like to make sure we cover devices that are not really in the mobile space (like power grid meters, switches, etc)</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">All the power grid meters and switches I have seen are servers, not a device the user is using to log in with.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><br><br><o:p></o:p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 2pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 13pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; "> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 2pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 13pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; ">></span><span style="font-size: 9pt; "> </span><span style="font-size: 13pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; ">define profiles and support features intended to enable OpenID to be used at levels of assurance higher than NIST SP800-63 v2 level 1 ,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 2pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 13pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; ">Define profiles and support features intended to enable OpenID to be used at least 1 level of assurance higher than NIST SP800-63 v2 level 1.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 2pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 13pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; "> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 2pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 13pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; ">Want to make sure we set a goal that may be reachable but not to go after the highest level and fail.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">word smithing ... <o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div></div></div></div></span></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>