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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Some questions<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&gt;</span> enable aggregation of attributes from multiple verifiable sources<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Not sure that this should be limited to verifiable sources as verification can be done later<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&gt;</span> enable support for controlled release of attributes,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>From the IdP or User ?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>&gt; define an extension mechanism<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>For what?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>&gt; complement OAuth 2.0<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Does this mean work well, integrate, allow OpenID attributes to be used in OAuth flow?<span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> openid-specs-bounces@lists.openid.net [mailto:openid-specs-bounces@lists.openid.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dick Hardt<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 19, 2010 8:37 AM<br><b>To:</b> OpenID Specs Mailing List<br><b>Subject:</b> OpenID v.Next Core Protocol Charter<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>At IIW yesterday I held a session on bashing the OpenID v.Nest Core Protocol Charter. Below is the current draft. Comments and/or questions welcome. Anyone interested in being a fellow proposer please let me know and I will add you.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>-- Dick<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>(a)</b><b>&nbsp; <i><u>Charter</u></i>.</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:2.0pt;margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-27.0pt'><b>(i)</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <b>WG name:</b>&nbsp; OpenID v.Next Core Protocol.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:2.0pt;margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-27.0pt'><b>(ii)</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <b>Purpose:</b>&nbsp; Produce a core protocol specification or family of specifications for OpenID v.Next that address the limitations and drawbacks present in the OpenID 2.0 that limit OpenID&#8217;s applicability, adoption, usability, privacy, and security.&nbsp; Specific goals are:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:2.0pt;margin-left:45.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in'><span style='font-family:Symbol'>&middot;</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>define message flows and verification methods,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:2.0pt;margin-left:45.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in'><span style='font-family:Symbol'>&middot;</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>enable support for controlled release of attributes,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:2.0pt;margin-left:45.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in'><span style='font-family:Symbol'>&middot;</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>enable aggregation of attributes from multiple verifiable sources,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:2.0pt;margin-left:45.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in'><span style='font-family:Symbol'>&middot;</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>enable support for a spectrum of clients, including passive clients per current usage, thin active clients, and active clients with OP functionality,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:2.0pt;margin-left:45.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in'><span style='font-family:Symbol'>&middot;</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>enable authentication to and use of attributes by non-browser applications,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:2.0pt;margin-left:45.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in'><span style='font-family:Symbol'>&middot;</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>enable the use of public key technology to enhance scalability and performance,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:2.0pt;margin-left:45.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in'><span style='font-family:Symbol'>&middot;</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>enable optimized protocol flows combining authentication, attribute release, and resource authorization,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:2.0pt;margin-left:45.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in'><span style='font-family:Symbol'>&middot;</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>define profiles and support features intended to enable OpenID to be used at levels of assurance higher than NIST SP800-63 v2 level 1 ,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:2.0pt;margin-left:45.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in'><span style='font-family:Symbol'>&middot;</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>define an extension mechanism<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:2.0pt;margin-left:45.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in'><span style='font-family:Symbol'>&middot;</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>ensure the use of OpenID on mobile devices,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:2.0pt;margin-left:45.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in'><span style='font-family:Symbol'>&middot;</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>ensure the use of OpenID on existing browsers with URL length restrictions,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:2.0pt;margin-left:45.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in'><span style='font-family:Symbol'>&middot;</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>complement OAuth 2.0<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:2.0pt;margin-left:45.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in'><span style='font-family:Symbol'>&middot;</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>minimize migration effort from OpenID 2.0<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpLast style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:2.0pt;margin-left:45.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in'><span style='font-family:Symbol'>&middot;</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>seamlessly integrate with and complement the other OpenID v.Next specifications.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:2.0pt;margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-27.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Compatibility with OpenID 2.0 is an explicit non-goal for this work.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:2.0pt;margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-27.0pt'><b>(iii)</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <b>Scope:</b>&nbsp; Produce a next generation OpenID core protocol specification or specifications, consistent with the purpose statement.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:2.0pt;margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-27.0pt'><b>(iv)</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <b>Proposed List of Specifications</b>:&nbsp; OpenID v.Next Core Protocol and possibly related specifications.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:2.0pt;margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-27.0pt'><b>(v)</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <b>Anticipated audience or users of the work:</b>&nbsp; Implementers of OpenID Providers, Relying Parties, Active Clients, and non-browser applications utilizing OpenID.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:2.0pt;margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-27.0pt'><b>(vi)</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <b>Language in which the WG will conduct business</b>:&nbsp; English.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:2.0pt;margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-27.0pt'><b>(vii)</b>&nbsp;&nbsp; <b>Method of work:&nbsp; </b>E-mail discussions on the working group mailing list, working group conference calls, and face-to-face meetings at the Internet Identity Workshop and OpenID summits.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:2.0pt;margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-27.0pt'><b>(viii)</b>&nbsp; <b>Basis for determining when the work of the WG is completed:</b>&nbsp; Work will not be deemed to be complete until there is a consensus that the resulting protocol specification or family of specifications fulfills the working group goals.&nbsp; Additional proposed changes beyond that initial consensus will be evaluated on the basis of whether they increase or decrease consensus within the working group.&nbsp; The work will be completed once it is apparent that maximal consensus on the draft has been achieved, consistent with the purpose and scope.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>(b)</b><b>&nbsp; <i><u>Background Information</u></i>.</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:2.0pt;margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-27.0pt'><b>(i)</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <b>Related work being done in other WGs or organizations</b>:&nbsp; OpenID Authentication 2.0 and related specifications, including Attribute Exchange (AX), Contract Exchange (CX), Provider Authentication Policy Extension (PAPE), and the draft User Interface (UI) Extension.&nbsp; OAuth, OAuth WRAP, and OAuth 2.0.&nbsp; OpenID Connect proposal. SAML 2.0 Core and SAML Authn Context.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:2.0pt;margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-27.0pt'><b>(ii)</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <b>Proposers:</b> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in'>Dick Hardt, <a href="mailto:dick.hardt@gmail.com">dick.hardt@gmail.com</a> (chair)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in'>Michael B. Jones, <a href="mailto:mbj@microsoft.com">mbj@microsoft.com</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in'>Breno de Medeiros, <a href="mailto:breno@google.com">breno@google.com</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in'>Ashish Jain, <a href="mailto:Ashish.Jain@paypal.com">Ashish.Jain@paypal.com</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in'>George Fletcher, <a href="mailto:gffletch@aol.com">gffletch@aol.com</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:2.0pt;margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-27.0pt'><b> (iii)</b>&nbsp;&nbsp; <b>Anticipated Contributions</b>:&nbsp; None.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>