But I suppose it is worthwhile to make the spec clearler. <br>It can be clearer by decomposeing the notion of OP into Discovery Service and Authentication Service than collectively calling it as "OP". That will facilitate a better understanding of the strength and weakness of the protocol as well. <br>
<br>=nat<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2009/1/6 Drummond Reed <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:drummond.reed@cordance.net">drummond.reed@cordance.net</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<p><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; font-weight: bold;">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;"> David Recordon
[mailto:<a href="mailto:drecordon@sixapart.com" target="_blank">drecordon@sixapart.com</a>] <br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, January 04, 2009
11:24 PM<br>
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> <a href="mailto:sappenin@gmail.com" target="_blank">sappenin@gmail.com</a>; 'Nat
Sakimura'; 'John Bradley'; <a href="mailto:specs@openid.net" target="_blank">specs@openid.net</a><br>
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<p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">I'd advocate for waiting until all of the discovery
work occurring in OASIS, IETF, and W3C shakes out before we make
changes to how OpenID discovery works. I'd much rather make this sort of
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<p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">On Jan 4, 2009, at 11:14 PM, Drummond Reed wrote:</span></font></p>
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<p><b><font color="black" size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; color: black; font-weight: bold;">From:</span></font></b><span><font color="black" size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; color: black;"> </span></font></span><font color="black" size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; color: black;"><a href="mailto:specs-bounces@openid.net" target="_blank">specs-bounces@openid.net</a>
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Fuelling<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b><span> </span>Friday, December 26, 2008 8:47 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b><span> </span>Nat Sakimura<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b><span> </span>John Bradley;<span> </span><a href="mailto:specs@openid.net" target="_blank">specs@openid.net</a><br>
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<p><font color="black" size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black;">On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Nat
Sakimura <<a href="mailto:n-sakimura@nri.co.jp" target="_blank">n-sakimura@nri.co.jp</a>>
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<p><font color="black" size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black;">2. Separation of OP into Discovery Service
and Authentication Service.<br>
In the current terminology, OP spans both Discovery Service and<br>
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+1. I would like to see discovery services separated from OP services
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> Breno,<br>
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> I agree. I recommended separating discovery into a separate doc for<br>
> 2.1.<br>
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> There didn't seem to be support for the idea at the time, perhaps<br>
> circumstances have changed and the idea will be accepted now.<br>
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> Regards<br>
> John Bradley<br>
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