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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I have to agree with Nat.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The real problem here, as I see it, is that the current specs
council members appear to be reluctant to actually fulfill their duties for
timely review of specification proposals.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>David or Scott, can you please create the (publicly readable) <a
href="mailto:specs-council@openid.net">specs-council@openid.net</a> list so we
can get on with this discussion and unblock the process?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>If we’re going to change the process at all, in my view,
it would be to make it clear that if the specs council hasn’t acted
within N days of a formal proposal, that the proposal can proceed to a
membership vote without the specs council having rendered an opinion. I
would suggest that the new board take up a proposal along those lines.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The specs council held up creation of the PAPE working group by
multiple months earlier this year. It’s doing the same thing with
the current proposals. As I see it, the specs council members should
either commit to timely fulfillment of their duties, or resign, allowing
members to be appointed who will respond in a timely fashion.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The current specs council members are listed at <a
href="http://wiki.openid.net/OpenID_Foundation/SC">http://wiki.openid.net/OpenID_Foundation/SC</a>
and are Johnny Bufu, Brad Fitzpatrick, Dick Hardt, Josh Hoyt, David Recordon,
Allen Tom, and myself.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> --
Mike<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
board-bounces@openid.net [mailto:board-bounces@openid.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Nat
Sakimura<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 17, 2008 4:46 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> david@sixapart.com; OpenID Specs Mailing List; Dick Hardt; Allen
Tom; Josh Hoyt<br>
<b>Cc:</b> board@openid.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [OpenID board] Please process the WG proposals on the table
(WAS The Specs Council and Process)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Well. Very good discussion. I am glad that I started the
original thread. <br>
<br>
At the same time, I would like the spec council to issue overdue
recommendations, especially for Contract Exchange. It has been sitting there
for a long time now. (By now, the actual works should have started.)<br>
<br>
As I believe, though the scope may seems a bit wide, the WG scope being wider
than what it really needs to is not a bad thing. WG can always narrow the scope
without any IPR consideration, but it is virtually impossible to widen the
scope afterwards. <br>
<br>
=nat<br>
-- <br>
Nat Sakimura (=nat)<br>
<a href="http://www.sakimura.org/en/">http://www.sakimura.org/en/</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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