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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Dick,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>On this point, I really have to disagree.&nbsp; Even I rarely
enter a URL into a web browser. Why bother when I know the web browser will
figure it out for me.&nbsp; I don&#8217;t want to type http:// or https:// :-)<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>More importantly, you and I are different than the average
users.&nbsp; I&#8217;ve watched people struggle with getting addresses properly
entered.&nbsp; I&#8217;ve watched people put &#8220;www&#8221; in front of <i>every</i>
name entered into a web browser, even when the site might be something else.&nbsp;
I&#8217;ve watched users enter \\ rather than //.&nbsp; I&#8217;ve even no
slash at all.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>So, what I think is important is that users have something
simple and consistent.&nbsp; As I noted to my message to Brad just a moment ago,
it appears that some sites <i>will</i> accept the e-mail address form and then
figure out where to direct the user.&nbsp;&nbsp; I was pleasantly surprised.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Given that at least some of the sites out there now do operate
this way, I suspect it might just be a matter of time before all of them
do.&nbsp; But, I think it&#8217;s important that the user experience is
consistent, as you say.&nbsp; If email IDs are going to be supported by some,
through ought to be supported by all &#8211; even if they do nothing but figure
out which OP to direct the browser to.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Paul<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Dick Hardt
[mailto:dick@sxip.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 01, 2008 11:45 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Brad Fitzpatrick<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Paul E. Jones; specs@openid.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Using email address as OpenID identifier<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>On 1-Apr-08, at 7:37 PM, Brad Fitzpatrick wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>

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-- that said, with directed identity in OpenID 2.0, a user just needs to type
in &quot;<a href="http://yahoo.com">yahoo.com</a>&quot;, or press the pretty
yahoo button.&nbsp; No typing.<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>I think this is why we don't need to use emails. People are
very familiar with typing in a URL in the address bar. The experience of
entering an URL and then being on that page is also really familiar. This is of
course what happens when you type the OP into the OpenID prompt.<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>Sorry for not being the least bit supportive of the email as
identifier idea -- there are just so many things that are bad about it and the
good reason (an identifier they already know) is provided per above with the
advantage of giving an expected experience.<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>I agree with Brad that we need to write a FAQ on this.<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>-- Dick<o:p></o:p></p>

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