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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=328461118-07122006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Why not just take the W3C IPR policy verbatim and change
the organization name?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=328461118-07122006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>The W3C patent policy is I believe released under
creative commons for precisely this reason if not this can easily happen. The
agreement was subscribed to by all the major vendors and the major open source
groups.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=328461118-07122006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Unless someone wants to incorporate proprietary technology
that they are not willing to release the rights to as required by the W3C terms
this is a debate we don't need to have.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=328461118-07122006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Ideally the Apache, Mozilla, OASIS, W3C and IETF IPR WGs
would get together and devise an industry standard acceptable to both Open
Source and proprietary vendors. The introduction of suspense licenses means that
it is not unthinkable that they would reach a common set of
terms.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> specs-bounces@openid.net
[mailto:specs-bounces@openid.net] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Gabe
Wachob<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, December 07, 2006 1:01 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
'Brett McDowell'; Recordon, David<BR><B>Cc:</B> specs@openid.net;
general@openid.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: OpenID IPR Policy
Draft<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Brett-<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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We need to get consensus on what the community wants before we take this to an
attorney.. However, I’ve done these sorts of IPR policies for standards
efforts several times and I can tell you that the process of working through
these IPR policies is slow, painful and expensive. I think presenting an
“already baked” (ie already drafted by lawyers) IPR policy to this community
and asking for a up/down vote is not in keeping with the spirit of this
development process. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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-Gabe<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
specs-bounces@openid.net [mailto:specs-bounces@openid.net] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Brett McDowell<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, December 07, 2006 6:48
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Recordon,
David<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> specs@openid.net;
general@openid.net<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B>
Re: OpenID IPR Policy Draft</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">This is normally lawyer work. I
recommend the companies & individuals invested in OpenID immediately turn
this exercise over to your legal counsel to ensure your interests--and the
interests of the community--are protected appropriately. <BR><BR>Does the new
OpenID organization have legal counsel retained (I don't mean volunteers, but
actually hired)? If not, that would be my second
recommendation.<BR><BR>--Brett<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=gmailquote><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">On 12/6/06, <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Recordon, David</SPAN></B> <<A
href="mailto:drecordon@verisign.com">drecordon@verisign.com</A>>
wrote:</SPAN></FONT></SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Hey guys,<BR>Been working with Gabe, and others, on
starting to draft an IPR Policy<BR>for OpenID specifications. We'd
appreciate feedback in terms of if what<BR>is written captures the correct
intent of the community? We realize the <BR>language isn't
technically as tight as it needs to be, though first want<BR>to make sure it
is saying the right thing. It is largely based on the<BR>IPR Policy
for Microformats.<BR><BR><A
href="http://openid.net/wiki/index.php/IPR_Policy">http://openid.net/wiki/index.php/IPR_Policy</A><BR><BR>Thanks,<BR>--David<BR>_______________________________________________<BR>specs
mailing list<BR><A href="mailto:specs@openid.net">specs@openid.net</A><BR><A
href="http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/specs">http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/specs</A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR><BR clear=all><BR>-- <BR>Brett McDowell
+1.413.662.2744
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