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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>To tear into the meat of the terminology open issues at <a
href="http://openid.net/wiki/index.php/Terminology">http://openid.net/wiki/index.php/Terminology</a>,
the first issue has already received quite a bit of discussion: switching from
Identity Provider (IdP) to OpenID Provider (OP).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I was originally a supporter of this change, because I had
always felt Identity Provider was somewhat of a misnomer, particularly when it
came to a system like OpenID where the IdP was generally NOT the source of your
identifier.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>However Eve Maler (co-chair of the OASIS SSTC that did SAML
and co-editor of the SAML Glossary) made this point in an earlier post:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>&lt;quote&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Just to be clear,
&quot;identity provider&quot; in SAML isn't intended to mean that this system
entity is providing an identity to a digital subject -- it means that this
system entity is providing identity information (specifically verification/authentication
info) to a relying party/service provider.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>&nbsp;From the SAML glossary (now
in HTML...):<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><u><font size=2 color=blue
face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:blue'><a
href="http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/21053/saml-glossary-2.0-os.html#IdentityProvider">http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/21053/saml-glossary-2.0-os.html#IdentityProvider</a></span></font></u><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><u><font size=2 color=blue
face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:blue'><a
href="http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/21053/saml-glossary-2.0-os.html#RelyingParty">http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/21053/saml-glossary-2.0-os.html#RelyingParty</a></span></font></u><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Often, but not always, a
SAML authentication authority also serves as an attribute authority:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><u><font size=2 color=blue
face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:blue'><a
href="http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/21053/saml-glossary-2.0-os.html#AttributeAuthority">http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/21053/saml-glossary-2.0-os.html#AttributeAuthority</a></span></font></u><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>&lt;endquote&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>For this reason, I have reversed my position and now feel
that it would not benefit the OpenID community to use a different term than
that already well-established by SAML.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>-1 to making this change.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>=Drummond <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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