[OIDFSC] Native application SSO Working Group

n-sakimura n-sakimura at nri.co.jp
Thu Jul 25 10:19:32 UTC 2013


OK with me as well.

(2013/07/25 8:02), John Bradley wrote:
> Fine with me.
>
> On 2013-07-24, at 6:44 PM, Mike Jones <Michael.Jones at microsoft.com
> <mailto:Michael.Jones at microsoft.com>> wrote:
>
>> I’m fine with that.  What about the other specs council members and
>> proposers?
>> *From:*openid-specs-bounces at lists.openid.net
>> <mailto:openid-specs-bounces at lists.openid.net>[mailto:openid-specs-bounces at lists.openid.net
>> <mailto:specs-bounces at lists.openid.net>]*On Behalf Of*Chuck Mortimore
>> *Sent:*Wednesday, July 24, 2013 3:31 PM
>> *To:*Lewis Adam-CAL022
>> *Cc:*specs at openid.net
>> <mailto:specs at openid.net>;specs-council at openid.net
>> <mailto:specs-council at openid.net>
>> *Subject:*Re: [OIDFSC] Native application SSO Working Group
>> Opening discussion again to help push this to completion.
>> I'm still not comfortable with "single authorization" as I believe
>> it's antithetical to what we actually need to build.      I do believe
>> SSO best describes the use-cases, but I'm willing to drop it to
>> achieve agreement.
>> How about we drop all the qualifiers and simply call it the: *Native
>> Application Working Group*- it's high level and independent of
>> implementation, other than we're working on concerns for native apps.
>>   We can start with the current scope and it's easily re-charterable
>> down the road.
>> -cmort
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 8:31 AM, Lewis Adam-CAL022
>> <Adam.Lewis at motorolasolutions.com
>> <mailto:Adam.Lewis at motorolasolutions.com>> wrote:
>> +2
>> We have written our own such function as we indeed call it an “SSO
>> client.”  It’s what developers understand.  It’s what user’s
>> understand.  It’s what RFIs and RFPs call for.  At the end of the day
>> a name is just a name, but I personally find the name “native single
>> authorization agent” to be a bit confusing.
>> Let’s think about how this is intended to be used.  An mobile user
>> downloads a Twitter client, a Facebook client, a G+ client and some
>> other clients.  He signs on once and gets access to their information
>> on Twitter/Facebook/G+/other.  Developers will think of it the same
>> way.  It’s SSO across native apps.  Imagine if the SAML WebSSO profile
>> was named the SAML single authorization agent profile??J
>> adam
>> *From:*openid-specs-bounces at lists.openid.net
>> <mailto:openid-specs-bounces at lists.openid.net>[mailto:openid-specs-bounces at lists.openid.net
>> <mailto:openid-specs-bounces at lists.openid.net>]*On Behalf Of*Richard Sand
>> *Sent:*Thursday, July 18, 2013 12:00 PM
>> *To:*Ashish Jain
>> *Cc:*specs at openid.net
>> <mailto:specs at openid.net>;specs-council at openid.net
>> <mailto:specs-council at openid.net>
>> *Subject:*Re: [OIDFSC] Native application SSO Working Group
>> +1. The name will impact potential adoption, foolish to think it
>> won't, and "SSO" is a commonly (mis)understood term and often appears
>> in business requirements, even though it is often a misnomer or
>> neglects other important related aspects such as log off, session
>> management etc. SSO is a name here, not a binding technical scope
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>> On Jul 18, 2013, at 12:36 PM, Ashish Jain <email at ashishjain.com
>> <mailto:email at ashishjain.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     I still don't understand / agree with the objection on
>>     openid-specs-native-sso. That's the intent and the primary use
>>     case. It will be far more appealing / understandable to the mobile
>>     app developers than 'single authorization agent'.
>>     -- Ashish
>>
>>     On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 5:46 PM, Paul Madsen
>>     <paulmadsen at rogers.com <mailto:paulmadsen at rogers.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     oh and I guess I should have mentioned the plans for a PRISMA
>>     subgroup ......
>>
>>     On 7/17/13 7:51 PM, John Bradley wrote:
>>
>>         Ok you have a point. NSAA then.
>>
>>
>>
>>         I want it in red.
>>
>>
>>
>>         Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>>
>>         On 2013-07-17, at 7:28 PM, =JeffH<Jeff.Hodges at KingsMountain.com>  <mailto:Jeff.Hodges at KingsMountain.com>  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>                 request that the name be changed to "Native Single Authorization Agent", with
>>
>>                 the mailing list name openid-specs-nssa
>>
>>             but "Native Single Authorization Agent" yields "nsaa" rather than "nssa", yes?
>>
>>
>>
>>             thus "openid-specs-nsaa" ?
>>
>>
>>
>>             =JeffH
>>
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