[OIDFSC] Native application SSO Working Group

Wed Jul 17 20:58:51 UTC 2013

Amen!

-cmort

On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Paul Madsen <paulmadsen at rogers.com> wrote:

>  this reminds me of the IETF SCIM-reacronymizing exercise
>
> the group was approved & chartered under the name 'Native SSO' . Those who
> understand what the intent of the work is all agree that the name is an
> accurate description of the work.
>
> Tony didnt like the name as proposed in the charter - but it was approved
> nonetheless.
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> So why are we still arguing?
>
> paul
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> ps. I wonder if the proposers of 'Backplane', or ' AB/Connect' ,both
> wonderfully descriptive, faced the same
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>  On 7/17/13 3:07 PM, Mike Jones wrote:
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>  So you’d prefer that the work be called something closer to “Native
> Application Authorization”?****
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> *From:* Anthony Nadalin
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 17, 2013 11:50 AM
> *To:* Paul Madsen; Don Thibeau
> *Cc:* Mike Jones; John Bradley; specs at openid.net; John Ehrig
> *Subject:* RE: [OIDFSC] Native application SSO Working Group****
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> I would have been too young back in the 90s****
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> I don’t like SSO in the name as this is basically this is just a way to
> authorize an app to interact with one or more resource serves on your behalf
> ****
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> *From:* Paul Madsen [mailto:paulmadsen at rogers.com <paulmadsen at rogers.com>]
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> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 17, 2013 11:39 AM
> *To:* Don Thibeau
> *Cc:* Anthony Nadalin; Mike Jones; John Bradley; specs at openid.net; John
> Ehrig
> *Subject:* Re: [OIDFSC] Native application SSO Working Group****
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> I am 99% confident that *our* beloved Tony was not part of the R&B group
> from Oakland, briefly popular in the 90s.....
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> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony!_Toni!_Ton%C3%A9<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony%21_Toni%21_Ton%C3%A9>
> !****
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> On 7/17/13 2:33 PM, Don Thibeau wrote:****
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> Paul ****
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> I don't think "Tony Tony Tony"  is a good name for a working group :)****
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> Don Thibeau****
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> The OpenID Foundation <http://openid.net>****
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> On Jul 17, 2013, at 2:30 PM, Paul Madsen wrote:****
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>  Tony Tony Tony, how I've missed our time together
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> The WG's mandate is to profile OIDC to enable an SSO model for native
> mobile applications.
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> Can you suggest a better (concise & memorable) descriptor for a mail list
> identifier?
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> paul****
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> On 7/17/13 2:17 PM, Anthony Nadalin wrote:****
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> That’s a totally useless name ****
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>  ****
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> *From:* openid-specs-bounces at lists.openid.net [
> mailto:openid-specs-bounces at lists.openid.net<openid-specs-bounces at lists.openid.net>]
> *On Behalf Of *Paul Madsen
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 17, 2013 10:59 AM
> *To:* Mike Jones
> *Cc:* John Bradley; specs at openid.net; John Ehrig; Don Thibeau
> *Subject:* Re: [OIDFSC] Native application SSO Working Group****
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>  ****
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> that list name is fine
>
> thanks****
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> On 7/17/13 1:51 PM, Mike Jones wrote:****
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> John, are you able to create the new mailing list at lists.openid.net or
> do we have to ask support at osuosl.org for the list creation?****
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>  ****
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> Paul and other WG creators, what name do you want the list to have?
> openid-specs-native-sso?****
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>                                                             -- Mike****
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> *From:* Don Thibeau [mailto:don at oidf.org <don at oidf.org>]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 17, 2013 5:03 AM
> *To:* Paul Madsen
> *Cc:* n-sakimura; John Ehrig; openid-specs at lists.openid.net; John
> Bradley; Mike Jones
> *Subject:* Re: [OIDFSC] Native application SSO Working Group****
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>  ****
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> John Ehrig can set up the web site space and the online Docusign process
> for IPR collection.  If done right away it saves all concerned lots of time
> and hassle.****
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> Don Thibeau****
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> The OpenID Foundation <http://openid.net/>****
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> On Jul 17, 2013, at 7:59 AM, Paul Madsen wrote:****
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> Thanks Nat,
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> Don, can you direct me to whomever I should work with on the WG list &
> page logistics?
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> Paul****
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> On 7/16/13 6:08 AM, n-sakimura wrote:****
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> The WG formation is deemed to be approved per section 4.2 of the OpenID
> Process Document v.1.5 of 2009.
>
> A new mailing list should be established promptly per section 4.3 of the
> above document. Also, a WG web pages should be set up at openid.net. You
> should also ask the secretary of the foundation to announce the first
> meeting of the WG, in which scope approval and the chairs selection should
> be done.
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> Note: the first meeting can only be done after the WG has collected the
> IPR agreement from the participants, so it may not be as quick as you may
> wish, but it has to be done. BTW, NRI's agreement is already in as we have
> a blanket agreement like Google.
>
> Nat
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> (2013/07/15 14:56), Paul Madsen wrote:
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> ****
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> Next steps?
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> Paul Madsen
> Ping Identity
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> Anthony Nadalin<tonynad at microsoft.com> <tonynad at microsoft.com>  wrote:
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> ****
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> I believe if you dig you will see that there is potential for IPR from
> both Apple and Facebook.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: openid-specs-bounces at lists.openid.net [
> mailto:openid-specs-bounces at lists.openid.net<openid-specs-bounces at lists.openid.net>]
> On Behalf Of n-sakimura
> Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2013 10:20 PM
> To: openid-specs at lists.openid.net
> Subject: Re: [OIDFSC] Native application SSO Working Group
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> Could you kindly spell it out?
>
>  From what I have been hearing, Facebook was just using fast application
> switch, which is nothing more than Self-issued thing that we have, and
> iOS's native login support given to facebook, twitter, and Weibo.
> Perhaps you are thinking of something else.
>
> Of course, I could be complete wrong. I should probably read
>     https://developers.facebook.com/docs/howtos/ios-6/
> and
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> http://developer.apple.com/library/ios/#documentation/Social/Reference/Social_Framework/_index.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40012233
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> as well.
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> Having said that, if Apple's interface is not open, perhaps it is a task
> for an industry consortia like OpenID Foundation to go and ask Apple to
> open up the API for other IdPs as well. Do not know if they are going to
> listen, but still, it might be our duty to try.
>
> Nat
>
> (2013/07/04 7:30), Anthony Nadalin wrote:
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> ****
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> I also have a concern that we might be infringing on the Facebook SSO
> (iOS) IPR with this effort. ****
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> --
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