OpenID Hybrid v2 Proposal (formerly known OpenID Connect)

Jonathan Coffman jonathan.coffman at gmail.com
Wed May 26 00:55:35 UTC 2010


My 2-cents (and more RP perspective coming soon from me):

While I totally understand the desire to forge ahead and do something  
amazing with "Connect" or "v.Next" -- I don't think we necessarily  
want to loose all backwards compatibility, getting RPs to upgrade to  
new, incompatible specs is a battle that would require a very large  
number of resources, resources the OIDF just doesn't have.

-Jonathan

On May 25, 2010, at 8:48 PM, Martin Atkins wrote:

> On 05/25/2010 01:56 PM, Allen Tom wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> A better way to look at OpenID Connect is to just think of it as  
>> revised
>> version of the OpenID Hybrid. The purpose of the Hybrid WG was to  
>> find a way
>> to combine OpenID Authentication with the approval of an Oauth  
>> access token
>> into a single request/response.
>>
>
> "OpenID Connect" isn't actually compatible with OpenID at anything  
> but the highest conceptual level.
>
>> Renaming the OpenID Connect WG to be the OpenID Hybrid v2 WG could  
>> possibly
>> clarify the goals of the WG, and reduce confusion within the  
>> community.
>> Afterall - Hybrid is intended for the case where the user's IdP is  
>> also the
>> SP, so the Connect proposal is really a revised Hybrid proposal,  
>> rather than
>> a proposal for OpenID v.Next
>>
>
> I think this would only make sense if the resulting protocol were  
> functionally equivalent to OpenID. That is to say that I can  
> implement it against my existing OpenID infrastructure without doing  
> data migrations, changing my UI, etc.
>
> I think the most important deviation in OpenID Connect is that the  
> identifier is no longer expected to be human-readable; while I  
> completely agree that this is the right design if we're starting  
> over from a clean slate, that's a breaking change for most existing  
> consumer implementations that link to the identifier as the user's  
> "home page" or "profile page".
>
> I still think this thing should be branded with a stronger OAuth  
> connotation than an OpenID connotation, since it's far closer to  
> OAuth than it is to OpenID. I didn't really like the OpenID Connect  
> name, but at least it made it sound like this was something new and  
> different; calling it OpenID/OAuth Hybrid makes it sound a lot more  
> like a different implementation of the same thing than the radical  
> rethink that OpenID Connect actually represents.
>
> That's my two cents, at least.
>
>
>
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