OpenID Hybrid v2 Proposal (formerly known OpenID Connect)
Jonathan Coffman
jonathan.coffman at gmail.com
Wed May 26 00:55:35 UTC 2010
My 2-cents (and more RP perspective coming soon from me):
While I totally understand the desire to forge ahead and do something
amazing with "Connect" or "v.Next" -- I don't think we necessarily
want to loose all backwards compatibility, getting RPs to upgrade to
new, incompatible specs is a battle that would require a very large
number of resources, resources the OIDF just doesn't have.
-Jonathan
On May 25, 2010, at 8:48 PM, Martin Atkins wrote:
> On 05/25/2010 01:56 PM, Allen Tom wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> A better way to look at OpenID Connect is to just think of it as
>> revised
>> version of the OpenID Hybrid. The purpose of the Hybrid WG was to
>> find a way
>> to combine OpenID Authentication with the approval of an Oauth
>> access token
>> into a single request/response.
>>
>
> "OpenID Connect" isn't actually compatible with OpenID at anything
> but the highest conceptual level.
>
>> Renaming the OpenID Connect WG to be the OpenID Hybrid v2 WG could
>> possibly
>> clarify the goals of the WG, and reduce confusion within the
>> community.
>> Afterall - Hybrid is intended for the case where the user's IdP is
>> also the
>> SP, so the Connect proposal is really a revised Hybrid proposal,
>> rather than
>> a proposal for OpenID v.Next
>>
>
> I think this would only make sense if the resulting protocol were
> functionally equivalent to OpenID. That is to say that I can
> implement it against my existing OpenID infrastructure without doing
> data migrations, changing my UI, etc.
>
> I think the most important deviation in OpenID Connect is that the
> identifier is no longer expected to be human-readable; while I
> completely agree that this is the right design if we're starting
> over from a clean slate, that's a breaking change for most existing
> consumer implementations that link to the identifier as the user's
> "home page" or "profile page".
>
> I still think this thing should be branded with a stronger OAuth
> connotation than an OpenID connotation, since it's far closer to
> OAuth than it is to OpenID. I didn't really like the OpenID Connect
> name, but at least it made it sound like this was something new and
> different; calling it OpenID/OAuth Hybrid makes it sound a lot more
> like a different implementation of the same thing than the radical
> rethink that OpenID Connect actually represents.
>
> That's my two cents, at least.
>
>
>
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