[OIDFSC] OpenID v.Next Discovery Working Group Proposal

[Santosh Rajan]

Great work Allen! Exactly what the doctor ordered!

On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 9:10 PM, Nat <sakimura at gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes. Let us go.
>
> =nat @ Mountain View via iPhone
>
>
> On 2010/05/22, at 14:11, John Bradley <ve7jtb at ve7jtb.com> wrote:
>
>  Agreed,
>>
>> Once the charter is approved lets get this party started.
>>
>> John B.
>> On 2010-05-21, at 7:58 PM, Breno de Medeiros wrote:
>>
>>  Agreed.
>>>
>>> While it's clear that other WGs might have to coordinate with the
>>> discovery WG, I think there's value in having a separate discovery WG
>>> for the reasons you mention.
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 19:28, Allen Tom <atom at yahoo-inc.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> Regarding all the various WG proposals – at least with the Discovery WG,
>>>> I
>>>> think there’s universal consensus that the existing OpenID 2.0 discovery
>>>> mechanism is very deficient and  must be revised or even completely
>>>> replaced. Yadis is obsolete and overly complex, and there’s been a lot
>>>> of
>>>> innovation in Discovery after OpenID 2.0 was finalized.
>>>>
>>>> The authors of the OpenID User Interface extension found several cases
>>>> where
>>>> OpenID discovery needed to be updated, yet extending the existing 2.0
>>>> discovery did not quite work. (RP/OP Logos/Metadata, publishing which UI
>>>> modes and display languages were supported, support for browser
>>>> assistants,
>>>> etc)
>>>>
>>>> The Discovery WG charter is well defined and  focused – the output of
>>>> the WG
>>>> is expected to be usable for future iterations of OpenID. Given that the
>>>> community wants to quickly advance OpenID, my hope is that the future
>>>> discovery work can be developed in parallel and kept in sync with the
>>>> other
>>>> initiatives.
>>>>
>>>> Allen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 5/21/10 6:05 PM, "Allen Tom" <atom at yahoo-inc.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Per the OpenID Foundation IPR policies and procedures, this note
>>>> formally
>>>> proposes the formation of a new OpenID working group.  The charter and
>>>> background information for the proposed group are as follows.
>>>>
>>>> (a)  Charter.
>>>> (i)       WG name:  OpenID v.Next Discovery.
>>>> (ii)      Purpose: Produce a discovery specification or family of
>>>> discovery
>>>> specifications for OpenID v.Next that address the limitations and
>>>> drawbacks
>>>> present in the OpenID 2.0 discovery facilities that limit OpenID’s
>>>> applicability, adoption, usability, privacy, and security.  Specific
>>>> goals
>>>> are:
>>>> ·     enable discovery for and normalization of OpenID identifiers,
>>>> including those utilizing e-mail address syntax and those that are URLs,
>>>>
>>>> ·     enable discovery of features supported by OpenID v.Next OpenID
>>>> Providers and Relying Parties,
>>>>
>>>> ·     enable discovery of attributes about OpenID v.Next OPs and RPs,
>>>> including, but not limited to visual logos and human-readable site
>>>> names,
>>>>
>>>> ·     enable discovery supporting a spectrum of clients, including
>>>> passive
>>>> clients per current usage, thin active clients, and active clients with
>>>> OP
>>>> functionality,
>>>>
>>>> ·     enable discovery supporting authentication to and use of
>>>> attributes by
>>>> non-browser applications,
>>>>
>>>> ·     enable discovery of public keys,
>>>>
>>>> ·     enable potential mechanisms for discovering context-relevant
>>>> OpenID
>>>> providers,
>>>>
>>>> ·     seamlessly integrate with and complement the other OpenID v.Next
>>>> specifications.
>>>>
>>>>          Compatibility with OpenID 2.0 is an explicit non-goal for this
>>>> work.
>>>> (iii)     Scope: Produce a next generation OpenID discovery
>>>> specification or
>>>> specifications, consistent with the purpose statement.
>>>> (iv)     Proposed List of Specifications:  OpenID v.Next Discovery and
>>>> possibly related specifications.
>>>> (v)      Anticipated audience or users of the work:  Implementers of
>>>> OpenID
>>>> Providers, Relying Parties, Active Clients, and non-browser applications
>>>> utilizing OpenID.
>>>> (vi)     Language in which the WG will conduct business:  English.
>>>> (vii)    Method of work:  E-mail discussions on the working group
>>>> mailing
>>>> list, working group conference calls, and face-to-face meetings at the
>>>> Internet Identity Workshop and OpenID summits.
>>>> (viii)   Basis for determining when the work of the WG is completed:
>>>>  Work
>>>> will not be deemed to be complete until there is a consensus that the
>>>> resulting protocol specification or family of specifications fulfills
>>>> the
>>>> working group goals.  Additional proposed changes beyond that initial
>>>> consensus will be evaluated on the basis of whether they increase or
>>>> decrease consensus within the working group.  The work will be completed
>>>> once it is apparent that maximal consensus on the draft has been
>>>> achieved,
>>>> consistent with the purpose and scope.
>>>> (b)  Background Information.
>>>> (i)       Related work being done in other WGs or organizations:  OpenID
>>>> Authentication 2.0 and related specifications, including Yadis 1.0.
>>>>  OAuth
>>>> and OAuth 2.0.  XRDS, XRD, host-meta, Web Linking, XAuth, LRDD, and
>>>> WebFinger.
>>>> (ii)      Proposers:
>>>> Allen Tom, atom at yahoo-inc.com, Yahoo! (co-chair)
>>>> Michael B. Jones, mbj at microsoft.com, Microsoft (co-chair)
>>>> John Bradley, ve7jtb at ve7jtb.com, independent
>>>> Dick Hardt, dick.hardt at gmail.com, independent
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> --Breno
>>>
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