Attribute Exchange 2.0

[Dick Hardt]

Certainly!

When we set up asxschema.org<http://asxschema.org>, the community was not yet ready to contemplate attribute schema.

There were a number of goals of using URLs for schema:

1) distributed extensibility: Anyone could define a new schema. There was not a requirement to coordinate anyone outside the group of people that wanted to share data. Getting everyone to agree on a single schema has been challenging in the past.

2) self describing: ideally there would be a document at the URL that could be retrieved that would provide meta-data about the attribute. One of those attributes could be how the attribute is related to other attributes. This would enable independently defined attributes that are equivalent in some way to point to each other.

The goals of axschema.org<http://axschema.org> was to enable schema users to come together loosely to define one set of schemas in an open source kind of way. If there is interest in the community to work on that now, that would be fantastic!

-- Dick

On 2009-09-17, at 6:03 AM, Chris Obdam wrote:

For the time-being is it possible to extend axschema.org<http://axschema.org>? Dick?

Cheers,

Chris Obdam
Stichting OpenID NL (Dutch OpenID foundation)

Op 17 sep 2009, om 04:06 heeft John Bradley het volgende geschreven:

I am in favour of this being international.

One reason for OIDs :)

Lots of people have taken runs at this over the years.

If people are serious about nailing down the semantics as well as the URI it may be worth the effort.

I will one up your Kantara with a OASIS WG.  That could go to the ISO/ITU-T as well.

I am not opposed to Kantara but would like to draw out peoples opinions.

John B.


On 2009-09-16, at 9:05 PM, Nat Sakimura wrote:

Hi John,

MS an the US Gov agree on a place for this is as important as other governments and telcos as well. ISO or ITU-T could be one place, but that would be too heavy weight. Using a place like Kantara, which is very light weight in starting a WG and has telco and other gov participation, as an interim home towards ISO/ITU-T seem like a good option to me.

=nat

John Bradley wrote:
I have to say that this is the most interest I have seen in the topic for a while.

I am a Kantara member as well.  However I know not everyone is 100% onboard with it being a neutral place.  Nat I know you try your best to achieve that.

I would like to see everyone including MS and the US Gov agree on a place for this.

That could be Kantara but I don't want to pre judge the sentiment.

John B.
On 2009-09-16, at 8:38 PM, Nat Sakimura wrote:

In Japan, we are starting the work to make a matching table for selected SAML metadata (selected by Mobile Contents Forum: about 600 of them) and OpenID AX schema. For this kind of thing, it is quite important to involve telco as well, IMHO. In this regard, as a forum, Kantara seems to be one of the good place to do.

As to the URL, I prefer shorter one, but axschema.org<http://axschema.org/> does not represent a short URL to me.
Something akin of bit.ly etc. is much shorter. Having said that, I am ok with axschema.org<http://axschema.org/> as well, if it can be transferred to an international non-profit.

=nat

Breno de Medeiros wrote:

So, is this a proposal to have axschemas.org<http://axschemas.org/> blessed (perhaps by the OIDF)?

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 2:44 PM, John Bradley <john.bradley at wingaa.com><mailto:john.bradley at wingaa.com> wrote:


Good point.  It would be nice to have one place to document schema.

The ICF has a claims dictionary as well.

If we could consolidate that would be an improvement.

Do people have an opinion on trying to do something cross protocol.

openID, Information Cards, and SAML or should we do something on our own.

John B.
On 2009-09-16, at 5:22 PM, Dick Hardt wrote:



axschema.org<http://axschema.org/> is shorter then schemas.openid.net<http://schemas.openid.net/> and implies the
schemas could be used for things other then OpenID

given that though, I don't have a strong preference

On 2009-09-16, at 2:06 PM, John Bradley wrote:



As I recall the idea was to move the URI to use schemas.openid.net<http://schemas.openid.net/>.

Is that still the preferred option from your point of view,  or do
you see axshema.org<http://axshema.org/> continuing in some way?

John B.

On 2009-09-16, at 4:54 PM, Dick Hardt wrote:



On 2009-09-16, at 12:28 PM, John Bradley wrote:



Dick,

That includes all of the schema work and AX 2.0 documents?


All the work that Sxip Identity did. I don't recall that anyone else
contributed.



Who controls axschema.org<http://axschema.org/> now?


I do personally





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