Yahoo available AX attrs - backchannel/endpoint URLs

[Chris Messina]

Actually, I think Gravatar is absolutely related to OpenID, from a
number of perspectives.

For one thing, all Gravatar accounts are keyed off of email addresses
-- and many sites use Gravatar silently to autofill a user's profile
photo/avatar on signup by pinging Gravatar with the hash of the user's
email address.

Second, this process of doing a third party lookup on an identifier
and getting back metadata could be useful for reputation services,
preference delivery, and so on (i.e. 4th party-provided discovery).

Third, it suggests that whatever metadata the user doesn't provide
herself, a site author may attempt to harvest elsewhere.

It just reinforces the value of adding profile-photo/logo/avatar data
into AX and SREG.

Chris

On Wednesday, December 9, 2009, Jonathan Coffman
<jonathan.coffman at gmail.com> wrote:
> Santosh, you're absolutely right, the Gravatar service doesn't actually have anything to do with OpenID -- but rather is the best example I can find of making profile pictures even remotely portable between sites.
> What I was trying to get across was that I think it would be worthwhile to think about how something like AX might in the future be able to support transporting information about the user's preferred profile pic alongside the rest of their information.
> Jonathan
>
>
> On Dec 9, 2009, at 9:52 AM, Santosh Rajan wrote:
> Hi Jonathan,
> I haven't seen you before around here. My apologies. I may have missed your earlier posts. Can you please explain how avatars (or gravatars) are related to OpenID?
>  ThanksSantosh
>
> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 6:47 PM, Jonathan Coffman <jonathan.coffman at gmail.com> wrote:
>  Avatars would definitely be huge. I can't tell you how frustrating it is as a user to update my avatar on all of the hundreds of sites I may encounter that require login.
> Professionally, I've run into problems when bringing up Gravatar as a potential option... but again, that sets the bar so high that users are pretty unlikely to even go through that process.
>  Jonathan
>
>
> On Dec 9, 2009, at 2:09 AM, Chris Messina wrote:
>  +1. I think those are the basic profile building blocks for social software. The avatar is something we particularly need for openid.
>
> Sent from my iPhone 2G
> On Dec 8, 2009, at 22:06, John Panzer <john at johnpanzer.com> wrote:
>
> For my use cases, the important things are, unscientifically,
> 1. Display name2. Avatar / photo3. Preferred link to human-readable online presence -- profile, blog, whatever strikes their fancy.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 8:38 PM, David Recordon <recordond at gmail.com> wrote:
>   I'm sure that the data is wildly out of date, but at the time the SREG
>  fields ( <http://openid.net/specs/openid-simple-registration-extension-1_0.html#response_format>http://openid.net/specs/openid-simple-registration-extension-1_0.html#response_format)
>  were based on looking at what a few hundred different sites were
>  asking for.
>
>  I unscientifically think that the extremely common stuff is:
>   - Name
>   - Avatar / photo
>   - Email address
>
>  Scientifically, we should actually put some effort into looking at
>  sign in pages again. :)
>
>  --David
>
>  On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Jonathan Coffman
>  <jonathan.coffman at gmail.com> wrote:
>  > Out of curiosity, beyond the email discussion below what are the primary
>  > metadata needs around the other major (PoCo) fields?
>  > Speaking to the use-cases I work off of here at PBS, I'm primarily concerned
>  > about emails being verified (and a signup date is also useful) and am most
>  > inclined to trust the OP (especially if it were a white-listed or otherwise
>  > vetted iDP).
>  > Jonathan
>  >
>  > On Dec 8, 2009, at 2:17 PM, Chris Messina wrote:
>  >
>  > Is it worth looking at how Facebook handles the passing of profile data? Or
>  > is their architecture/use case different?
>  >
>  >  <http://wiki.developers.facebook.com/index.php/Users.getInfo>http://wiki.developers.facebook.com/index.php/Users.getInfo
>  > On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Breno de Medeiros <breno at google.com> wrote:
>  >>
>  >> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 11:01 AM, John Panzer <jpanzer at google.com> wrote:
>  >> > For "o

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