Announcing OpenID Attribute Properties Draft 1

Johannes Ernst at
Tue Sep 26 18:30:06 UTC 2006

As a community, we are still struggling with where to draw the  
boundary between what is generally accepted and thus should be  
standardized, and what is still unknown enough and thus needs  
competition to figure out what the best approach is and for what use  

It appears that we agree on for sure:
  - discovery (aka Yadis)
  - shared-secret-based authentication (aka OpenID authentication)

It appears that we might be able to reach consensus on:
  - a minimal vocabulary (at least I have not heard different  
factions argue in favor of different, competing, vocabularies, for  
reasons other than the next item ... see below ...)

So far, there has been disagreement on:
  - the underlying data model for vocabularies (based on tree, a  
directed graph, or simply name-value pairs)
  - the timing and triggers that cause data to move
  - the mechanisms by which data moves.

Depending on the day of the week, we seem to all be more or less  
confident on whether we can (or should, at this time!) get agreement  
on the things that we don't always agree on.

I would agree with you that we should avoid premature standardization  
for things that don't have sufficient consensus yet.

Others argue that it is better to pick one of the alternatives as a  
standard, and fix it later if needed, than to not have a standardized  
facility for an important function (an argument that I understand).

The current approach seems to be to go down the standardization route  
and see how far we can go. It is certainly possible that as we go  
down that route and improve the proposed specs, some of the  
objections will disappear ...

On Sep 26, 2006, at 0:36, Martin Atkins wrote:

> Johannes Ernst wrote:
>> I thought we had consensus that Drummond and I owned the
>> vocabularies/ontologies/schema/whatever-we-call-it action item?
> The more the merrier, in my opinion.
> Let the market decide!
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Johannes Ernst
NetMesh Inc.

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