Changing Terminology (was RE: IdP term in spec (was RE: Delegation discussion summary))

Dick Hardt dick at sxip.com
Tue Oct 17 15:34:41 UTC 2006


I think we should be open (pun intended) to making changes.

I really like the OpenID Provider -> shortens to OP, and is very  
specific on what it does.
I have always found IdP to be a misnomer, and have mentioned it in  
the past.
Now we have a great candidate, that provides more clarity, and it  
should be a simple search and replace, and does not affect any code.

Agreed the user friendly terms may take some more discussion.

-- Dick

On 15-Oct-06, at 11:58 AM, Recordon, David wrote:

> I'd really prefer not to change terminology in the spec right now.
> Seems like something we should have thought about four months ago  
> versus
> a week after we said it would be final.  There is nothing saying user
> friendly terms that map to spec terms can't be created for the time
> being.  I do however think there will need to be healthy discussion
> around them, that takes longer than a week.  :)
>
> --David
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: specs-bounces at openid.net [mailto:specs-bounces at openid.net] On
> Behalf Of Drummond Reed
> Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 11:43 PM
> To: 'Johannes Ernst'; specs at openid.net
> Subject: IdP term in spec (was RE: Delegation discussion summary)
>
> Suggestion: sidestep the issue completely and in the spec -- and
> everywhere else -- just call it OpenID provider. It's a simple
> concatenation of "OpenID" and "service provider", so everyone gets it,
> but nobody will associate it with SAML or federation or anything else.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: specs-bounces at openid.net [mailto:specs-bounces at openid.net] On
> Behalf Of Johannes Ernst
> Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 11:37 PM
> To: specs at openid.net
> Subject: Re: Delegation discussion summary
>
> We call it "identity host" at NetMesh. It's close enough to "identity
> provider" so people understand it quickly, but does not have the
> "provider" part to it (duh).
>
> On Oct 14, 2006, at 20:46, Scott Kveton wrote:
>
>>> I would propose that the term "Homesite" be used when prompting the
>>> user to type in their IdP. I think the term "Identity Provider" is
>>> overloaded and not user friendly.
>>
>> As per my last email I feel the same way about "identity provider"
>> as well
>> ... I agree with Dick; too overloaded and not user friendly.
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