<div dir="ltr">Hi all,<div>Here are the notes from today's call. They are also stored <a href="https://hackmd.io/@oidf-wg-sse/wg-meeting-20250805">here</a>.</div><div><br></div><div>Atul</div><div><br></div><span class="gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><span><div dir="ltr" style="margin-left:0pt" align="left"><table style="border:none;border-collapse:collapse"><colgroup><col width="165"><col width="160"></colgroup><tbody><tr style="height:74.5pt"><td style="vertical-align:middle;padding:5pt;overflow:hidden"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.44;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="border:none;display:inline-block;overflow:hidden;width:137px;height:68px"><img src="https://lh7-us.googleusercontent.com/OubMXEaSzW6cz-Rt9RyUGsuX2z_G2pbaWOSLNAI_1YuZEk9lVaehxLoZgJt6AbxshlaXTZ4HHvQjpxPRVTWVxlwCl-fPKhGsbSTcgVVvejMX1rS_DaeeX4yOVQyvp2y3cFkC6XMBihqiTrDY3qBYwq8" width="137" height="68" style="margin-left:0px;margin-top:0px"></span></span></p></td><td style="vertical-align:top;padding:5pt;overflow:hidden"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Poppins,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline"> Atul Tulshibagwale</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.5;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Poppins,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline"> CTO</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.44;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(136,136,136);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline"> </span><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tulshi/" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(17,85,204);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="border:none;display:inline-block;overflow:hidden;width:24px;height:24px"><img src="https://lh7-us.googleusercontent.com/nf4RO594hvFNyujzHdKSn1RCJcOIC1-Mk2-_S2GLH4LUi6Prxj4bL0tyguJ-6XH50k_fHPq6nynNBdkJwAzgGdYlImXDDKv07yQuj5PcskVaBqf9vL1Z2esDwZsb5Z9J4tvDcPiiZdQSuyzywRbH3Fs" width="24" height="24" style="margin-left:0px;margin-top:0px"></span></span></a><a href="mailto:atul@sgnl.ai" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(17,85,204);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="border:none;display:inline-block;overflow:hidden;width:24px;height:24px"><img src="https://lh7-us.googleusercontent.com/jy9xWqMUZyDKsa5W_-BxVILzsnbgKHSkJVzdCeCWVVSvhJbGal-I_Ja-qTTnA1SpYE65RrEcWMMLNPfbrp9HXjBOKdeXNIVuhOBg-vZe-Ed8e0rCV8BMjih-COWlyljD_Hfqg2SzCuqKASIsPk1O6_w" width="24" height="24" style="margin-left:0px;margin-top:0px"></span></span></a></p></td></tr></tbody></table>---</div><div dir="ltr" style="margin-left:0pt" align="left"><h1 class="gmail-part gmail-in-view" id="gmail-WG-Meeting-2025-08-05">WG Meeting: 2025-08-05</h1><h2 class="gmail-part gmail-in-view" id="gmail-Agenda"><a class="gmail-anchor gmail-hidden-xs" href="#Agenda" title="Agenda"><span class="gmail-octicon gmail-octicon-link gmail-ph gmail-ph-link-simple-horizontal"></span></a>Agenda</h2><ul class="gmail-part gmail-in-view">
<li class="gmail-">Interoperability event</li>
<li class="gmail-">Extraordinary meeting and OpenID Process</li>
</ul><h2 class="gmail-part gmail-in-view" id="gmail-Attendees"><a class="gmail-anchor gmail-hidden-xs" href="#Attendees" title="Attendees"><span class="gmail-octicon gmail-octicon-link gmail-ph gmail-ph-link-simple-horizontal"></span></a>Attendees</h2><ul class="gmail-part gmail-in-view">
<li class="gmail-">Atul Tulshibagwale (SGNL)</li>
<li class="gmail-">Shayne Miel (Cisco)</li>
<li class="gmail-">Yair Sarig (Omnissa)</li>
<li class="gmail-">Stefan Durnberger (Cisco)</li>
<li class="gmail-">George Fletcher (Practical Identity)</li>
<li class="gmail-">Vatsal Gupta (Apple)</li>
<li class="gmail-">Apoorva Deshpande (okta)</li>
</ul><h2 class="gmail-part gmail-in-view" id="gmail-Notes"><a class="gmail-anchor gmail-hidden-xs" href="#Notes" title="Notes"><span class="gmail-octicon gmail-octicon-link gmail-ph gmail-ph-link-simple-horizontal"></span></a>Notes</h2><h3 class="gmail-part gmail-in-view" id="gmail-Interop-Event"><a class="gmail-anchor gmail-hidden-xs" href="#Interop-Event" title="Interop-Event"><span class="gmail-octicon gmail-octicon-link gmail-ph gmail-ph-link-simple-horizontal"></span></a>Interop Event</h3><ul class="gmail-part gmail-in-view">
<li class="gmail-">At Authenticate Conference</li>
<li class="gmail-">No proposal to give pre-registration passes, but we <em>might</em> be able to get a discount</li>
<li class="gmail-">1st interop event that will test to the final v1 spec</li>
<li class="gmail-">Online participation is available</li>
<li class="gmail-">Like Gartner where there will be visibility for implementation</li>
<li class="gmail-">Online participation means you get included in the results, but would not demonstrate product at the conference</li>
<li class="gmail-">Eventually there will be a list with information about implementations who are conformant with final v1 spec</li>
</ul><h3 class="gmail-part gmail-in-view" id="gmail-Extraordinary-meeting"><a class="gmail-anchor gmail-hidden-xs" href="#Extraordinary-meeting" title="Extraordinary-meeting"><span class="gmail-octicon gmail-octicon-link gmail-ph gmail-ph-link-simple-horizontal"></span></a>Extraordinary meeting</h3><ul class="gmail-part gmail-in-view">
<li class="gmail-">We have made non-normative changes and need approval from the group to incorporate those changes into the current draft vote</li>
<li class="gmail-">Please send an email with langauge saying that you approve the changes</li>
<li class="gmail-">We need quorum (the lower of 20 people or 20% of the people active in the WG) to approve the changes</li>
<li class="gmail-">The changes are non-normative, and the final draft will just turn into the final spec.</li>
<li class="gmail-">(Apoorva) I didn't receive a response to the version numbers comment
<ul>
<li class="gmail-">(Shayne) The published drafts have to be sequential in numbers. The currently published draft is v3 for SSF and CAEP and v1 or RISC</li>
<li class="gmail-">(Shayne) We had to move to v4 of SSF and CAEP and v2 of RISC at the start of the voting period</li>
<li class="gmail-">(Shayne) When we made the non-normative changes, we had to go to v5 of SSF and CAEP and v3 of RISC. This caused the regression in the version numbers of the working draft</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li class="gmail-">(Apoorva) Are we walking back the decision to keep higher numbers? If we merged something, would we up the draft number or not?
<ul>
<li class="gmail-">(Shayne) We would update the number if we move to a new draft</li>
<li class="gmail-">(Shayne) There's two kind of publishing, OpenID publishing, and internal WG publishing. The draft numbers are for the OpenID level publishing.</li>
</ul>
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<li class="gmail-">Extraordinary meeting is on Aug 14th, 10a Pacific using the Zoom link on the meeting invite: <a href="https://zoom.us/j/98105195621?pwd=MjJmUUJ2dW9zRVp3NWtDQ3RpTzRadz09" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://zoom.us/j/98105195621?pwd=MjJmUUJ2dW9zRVp3NWtDQ3RpTzRadz09</a></li>
</ul><h3 class="gmail-part gmail-in-view" id="gmail-Next-regular-meeting-812-Cancel"><a class="gmail-anchor gmail-hidden-xs" href="#Next-regular-meeting-812-Cancel" title="Next-regular-meeting-812-Cancel"><span class="gmail-octicon gmail-octicon-link gmail-ph gmail-ph-link-simple-horizontal"></span></a>Next regular meeting (8/12) Cancel?</h3><ul class="gmail-part gmail-in-view">
<li class="gmail-">Shayne and Atul are both unavailable, and we have the extraordinary meeting on 8/14, so should we cancel?
<ul>
<li class="gmail-">(Shayne, Atul) Yes.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul><h2 class="gmail-part gmail-in-view" id="gmail-Action-Items"><a class="gmail-anchor gmail-hidden-xs" href="#Action-Items" title="Action-Items"><span class="gmail-octicon gmail-octicon-link gmail-ph gmail-ph-link-simple-horizontal"></span></a>Action Items</h2><ul class="gmail-part gmail-in-view">
<li class="gmail-"><s>(Atul) Ask Mike to send cancellation for 8/12</s></li></ul></div></span></div></div></div>