<div dir="ltr">Hi all,<div>Here are the notes from today's call. They are also stored <a href="https://hackmd.io/@oidf-wg-sse/wg-meeting-20250701">here</a>.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks to all those who participated,</div><div>Atul</div><div><br></div><span class="gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><span><div dir="ltr" style="margin-left:0pt" align="left"><table style="border:none;border-collapse:collapse"><colgroup><col width="165"><col width="160"></colgroup><tbody><tr style="height:74.5pt"><td style="vertical-align:middle;padding:5pt;overflow:hidden"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.44;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="border:none;display:inline-block;overflow:hidden;width:137px;height:68px"><img src="https://lh7-us.googleusercontent.com/OubMXEaSzW6cz-Rt9RyUGsuX2z_G2pbaWOSLNAI_1YuZEk9lVaehxLoZgJt6AbxshlaXTZ4HHvQjpxPRVTWVxlwCl-fPKhGsbSTcgVVvejMX1rS_DaeeX4yOVQyvp2y3cFkC6XMBihqiTrDY3qBYwq8" width="137" height="68" style="margin-left:0px;margin-top:0px"></span></span></p></td><td style="vertical-align:top;padding:5pt;overflow:hidden"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Poppins,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline"> Atul Tulshibagwale</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.5;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Poppins,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline"> CTO</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.44;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(136,136,136);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline"> </span><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tulshi/" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(17,85,204);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="border:none;display:inline-block;overflow:hidden;width:24px;height:24px"><img src="https://lh7-us.googleusercontent.com/nf4RO594hvFNyujzHdKSn1RCJcOIC1-Mk2-_S2GLH4LUi6Prxj4bL0tyguJ-6XH50k_fHPq6nynNBdkJwAzgGdYlImXDDKv07yQuj5PcskVaBqf9vL1Z2esDwZsb5Z9J4tvDcPiiZdQSuyzywRbH3Fs" width="24" height="24" style="margin-left:0px;margin-top:0px"></span></span></a><a href="mailto:atul@sgnl.ai" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(17,85,204);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="border:none;display:inline-block;overflow:hidden;width:24px;height:24px"><img src="https://lh7-us.googleusercontent.com/jy9xWqMUZyDKsa5W_-BxVILzsnbgKHSkJVzdCeCWVVSvhJbGal-I_Ja-qTTnA1SpYE65RrEcWMMLNPfbrp9HXjBOKdeXNIVuhOBg-vZe-Ed8e0rCV8BMjih-COWlyljD_Hfqg2SzCuqKASIsPk1O6_w" width="24" height="24" style="margin-left:0px;margin-top:0px"></span></span></a></p></td></tr></tbody></table><h1 class="gmail-part gmail-in-view" id="gmail-WG-Meeting-2025-07-01">WG Meeting: 2025-07-01</h1><h2 class="gmail-part gmail-in-view" id="gmail-Agenda"><a class="gmail-anchor gmail-hidden-xs" href="#Agenda" title="Agenda"><span class="gmail-octicon gmail-octicon-link gmail-ph gmail-ph-link-simple-horizontal"></span></a>Agenda</h2><ul class="gmail-part gmail-in-view">
<li class="gmail-">Review issues since review period started</li>
<li class="gmail-">Version numbering</li>
<li class="gmail-">Review period ends Sunday, August 10, 2025</li>
<li class="gmail-">Voting period begins: Monday, August 11, 2025</li>
<li class="gmail-">Voting period ends: Monday, August 25, 2025</li>
</ul><h2 class="gmail-part gmail-in-view" id="gmail-Attendees"><a class="gmail-anchor gmail-hidden-xs" href="#Attendees" title="Attendees"><span class="gmail-octicon gmail-octicon-link gmail-ph gmail-ph-link-simple-horizontal"></span></a>Attendees</h2><ul class="gmail-part gmail-in-view">
<li class="gmail-">Atul Tulshibagwale (SGNL)</li>
<li class="gmail-">Mike Kiser (Sailpoint)</li>
<li class="gmail-">Sean O'Dell (Disney)</li>
<li class="gmail-">John Marchesini (Jamf)</li>
<li class="gmail-">Vatsal Gupta</li>
<li class="gmail-">Shayne Miel (Cisco)</li>
<li class="gmail-">Jay Baskar (Radiant Logic)</li>
<li class="gmail-">Yair Sarig (Omnissa)</li>
</ul><h2 class="gmail-part gmail-in-view" id="gmail-Notes"><a class="gmail-anchor gmail-hidden-xs" href="#Notes" title="Notes"><span class="gmail-octicon gmail-octicon-link gmail-ph gmail-ph-link-simple-horizontal"></span></a>Notes</h2><h3 class="gmail-part gmail-in-view" id="gmail-Version-numbering"><a class="gmail-anchor gmail-hidden-xs" href="#Version-numbering" title="Version-numbering"><span class="gmail-octicon gmail-octicon-link gmail-ph gmail-ph-link-simple-horizontal"></span></a>Version numbering</h3><ul class="gmail-part gmail-in-view">
<li class="gmail-">(Atul) We should publish each intermediate draft
<ul>
<li class="gmail-">(Shayne) This feels like a branching issue</li>
<li class="gmail-">(Shayne) I feel all these changes we are making are working toward a version 5</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li class="gmail-">(Atul) What if people want to refer to the intermediate working drafts?</li>
<li class="gmail-">(Shayne) We should only refer to voted on versions</li>
<li class="gmail-">(Atul) Can we add a "sub version" number?</li>
<li class="gmail-">(Shayne) Can we add commit hashes?</li>
<li class="gmail-">(Sean) Agrees to "sub version" number</li>
<li class="gmail-">(Yair) We can identify the sub-version as an "iteration" or something. So that people don't confuse it with an official version.</li>
<li class="gmail-">(Shayne) What is the need to distinguish between the different iterations</li>
<li class="gmail-">(Atul) People could use the iteration numbers to determine what they have implemented
<ul>
<li class="gmail-">(Shayne) Shouldn't they be not using the iterations?</li>
<li class="gmail-">(Atul) They might use them within their development process</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li class="gmail-">(Mike) This also causes confusion between interops and</li>
<li class="gmail-">(Jen) There's confusion because we publish iterations on GitHub, and the implementers drafts too.</li>
<li class="gmail-">(Jen) we can add a header section to clarify</li>
<li class="gmail-">(Shayne) Unless we have an automated way of adding version numbers (in whichever form), it will be a nightmare to merge.</li>
<li class="gmail-">(Atul) Is everyone OK with not identifying the working versions? (Shayne and Jen agree)</li>
</ul><h2 class="gmail-part gmail-in-view" id="gmail-Action-Items"><a class="gmail-anchor gmail-hidden-xs" href="#Action-Items" title="Action-Items"><span class="gmail-octicon gmail-octicon-link gmail-ph gmail-ph-link-simple-horizontal"></span></a>Action Items</h2><ul class="gmail-part gmail-in-view">
<li class="gmail-">Jen to add an issue to note header section for working group drafts (to be worked on after current spec goes final)</li></ul></div></span></div></div></div>