<div dir="ltr">Hi Dean,<div>Great points. I've updated the presentation to clarify what the event is about, and renamed the event - it is now called "Session Presented"</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for your feedback,</div><div>Atul</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 10:24 AM Saxe, Dean <<a href="mailto:deansaxe@amazon.com" target="_blank">deansaxe@amazon.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">A few quick comments on the suggested additions:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">uaf</span> describes a FIDO protocol which has the concept of user presence, so it may be wise to find an alternative claim name to avoid confusion.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">When you describe user presence, I immediately think about the user presenting an authentication factor that indicates that they are present for the transaction. For example, presenting an inherence factor (fingerprint) to unlock a FIDO
hardware security key (e.g. Yubikey bio) as part of user authentication. I don’t think this is what you’re trying to communicate with the User Present event. Can you describe this event in more concrete terms? There may be a naming collision here, as well,
that we should avoid to minimize confusion about what the event type means.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">-dhs<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">Dean H. Saxe, <a href="https://idpro.org/cidpro/" title="https://idpro.org/cidpro/" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(4,74,145)">CIDPRO</span></a> (he/him)</span></b><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Openid-specs-risc <<a href="mailto:openid-specs-risc-bounces@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">openid-specs-risc-bounces@lists.openid.net</a>> on behalf of Atul Tulshibagwale via Openid-specs-risc <<a href="mailto:openid-specs-risc@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">openid-specs-risc@lists.openid.net</a>><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>Atul Tulshibagwale <<a href="mailto:atul@sgnl.ai" target="_blank">atul@sgnl.ai</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, February 6, 2024 at 5:45 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>OpenID RISC List <<a href="mailto:openid-specs-risc@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">openid-specs-risc@lists.openid.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[EXTERNAL] [Openid-specs-risc] Proposing two new CAEP event types<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">My colleagues at SGNL and I have come up with new event types that we think will be useful for everyone. They indicate that a user session has been established, and that a user presence has been observed. Please see the attached slides
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