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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Atul,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">A few quick comments on the suggested additions:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">uaf</span> describes a FIDO protocol which has the concept of user presence, so it may be wise to find an alternative claim name to avoid confusion.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">When you describe user presence, I immediately think about the user presenting an authentication factor that indicates that they are present for the transaction. For example, presenting an inherence factor (fingerprint) to unlock a FIDO
hardware security key (e.g. Yubikey bio) as part of user authentication. I don’t think this is what you’re trying to communicate with the User Present event. Can you describe this event in more concrete terms? There may be a naming collision here, as well,
that we should avoid to minimize confusion about what the event type means.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">-dhs<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">Dean H. Saxe, <a href="https://idpro.org/cidpro/" title="https://idpro.org/cidpro/"><span style="color:#044A91">CIDPRO</span></a> (he/him)</span></b><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Senior Security Engineer, AWS Identity Security Team | Amazon Web Services (AWS)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">E: <a href="mailto:deansaxe@amazon.com" title="mailto:deansaxe@amazon.com"><span style="color:#552D42">deansaxe@amazon.com</span></a> | M: <a href="tel:206-659-7293" title="tel:206-659-7293"><span style="color:#552D42">206-659-7293</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Openid-specs-risc <openid-specs-risc-bounces@lists.openid.net> on behalf of Atul Tulshibagwale via Openid-specs-risc <openid-specs-risc@lists.openid.net><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>Atul Tulshibagwale <atul@sgnl.ai><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, February 6, 2024 at 5:45 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>OpenID RISC List <openid-specs-risc@lists.openid.net><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[EXTERNAL] [Openid-specs-risc] Proposing two new CAEP event types<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi all,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">My colleagues at SGNL and I have come up with new event types that we think will be useful for everyone. They indicate that a user session has been established, and that a user presence has been observed. Please see the attached slides
to get an overview. We can discuss this in our next working group meeting.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Atul<o:p></o:p></p>
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