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<div class="">It's worth underscoring this point. The opt-in/out events are signals about actions/state changes that occurred on the transmitter's side. They, like all events, are informative; they are not commands. The event definition does not oblige the
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<li class="">Not necessarily. End users are not usually aware of in-session events (defined by CAEP) whereas RISC is used in a more end-user centric manner as "account protection".<span class=""></span></li><li class="">Because it is not for the operation / lifecycle of the protocol itself. It is a signal that the user made a change their account, in this case disabling account protection features.</li></ol>
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<b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, October 11, 2021 10:21<br class="">
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<b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[Openid-specs-risc] Opt Out / Opt In</font>
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Sorry for all the questions recently. I have a few more, this time about the<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fopenid.net%2Fspecs%2Fopenid-risc-profile-specification-1_0.html%23opt-out&data=04%7C01%7Ctim.cappalli%40microsoft.com%7Cac6190fef0e648d8722f08d98cc284c2%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637695590818372595%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=LK%2F6M6HQDnEqy9rNOTfQMSxATL7zpwLr6n3MrV%2BeR7g%3D&reserved=0" originalsrc="https://openid.net/specs/openid-risc-profile-specification-1_0.html#opt-out" shash="JHsZ51BeekjfZOXqDje+/Z/xf8etgLmg2Nr8g+/a7WgfUoJAntJxdxweBv3xxe0QlpAWOyx6+75du2SyPLeFSEbfrKwq1g3wioF+hgfqib92Vd49hYLGwNFIkiTfYAA+3iZ2eANtPQjet8FoUljqGSMeXjwxqpPNslKq/AoSskw=" title="https://openid.net/specs/openid-risc-profile-specification-1_0.html#opt-out" class="">RISC
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