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<p class="MsoNormal">It should be noted that <a href="https://openid.net/wg/risc/charter/">
the current charter</a> and <a href="https://bitbucket.org/openid/risc/raw/93d4d7afaf0d59e142479052a785d63d8129d8b4/working-group-charter.pdf">
draft revised charter</a> say that the following is out of scope for the working group:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Definition of APIs and underlying mechanisms for connecting to, interacting with and operating centralized databases or intelligence clearinghouses when these are used to communicate security events between account
providers.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">So part of this discussion needs to be: is this work that we think belongs in the working group?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Annabelle Richard Backman<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Openid-specs-risc <openid-specs-risc-bounces@lists.openid.net> on behalf of Openid-specs-risc <openid-specs-risc@lists.openid.net><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>David Skyberg <david.skyberg@capitalone.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 11:40 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Openid-specs-risc <openid-specs-risc@lists.openid.net><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Openid-specs-risc] [External Sender] Re: reminder: call today at 3 pm Pacific<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi folks, <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I would like to suggest a discussion topic - Clearing House support.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The spec is currently targeted at point to point event exchange. There are also very valid use cases for supporting a pub/sub style clearing house model. This was the goal of Andrew Nash's startup, Confyrm (acquired by Capital One).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">There are at least two interesting threads under this topic:<o:p></o:p></p>
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Event format, control plane, and protocol requirements for clearing house support. <o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
Privacy ('nuff said)<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I've had a couple very limited conversations (seriously, like 5 minutes) with Annabelle and Mike. Both agree we should at least start the discussion. I'm open to bribery. If you have a doc that needs editing, or your car needs cleaning,
I'm your guy.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#2C5280">David Skyberg</span></b>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#2C5280">Capital One Identity Services</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">703.439.8876</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><a href="mailto:david.skyberg@capitalone.com" target="_blank">david.skyberg@capitalone.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 6:27 PM Richard Backman, Annabelle via Openid-specs-risc <<a href="mailto:openid-specs-risc@lists.openid.net">openid-specs-risc@lists.openid.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Apologies for the confusion over the call today. We had some difficulties getting access to start the call. That should be resolved by the next one.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">We did hold a brief call this afternoon, which we ended early due to low participation (unsurprising, given the confusion). Notes from that meeting follow:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>Re-Chartering Update</b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">The proposed charter was submitted to the Specifications Council last week after amendment based on feedback received at the CAEP face-to-face meeting. We are awaiting confirmation
of the re-chartering from the Council.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>RISC Ramp Up</b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">We answered a few questions regarding how to get ramped up on the RISC work, and how to participate:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>How can I learn about the work that the working group has done so far?</b> <o:p>
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Read the working group’s documents, available in <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/bitbucket.org/openid/risc/src/master/__;!0Ns9_1dOjwg!JY0jeiE4y3ye6E_-a2dSiCZEgxpThPrsPV4nY70cbzPqHfMOwaGfEeRrVv7o5ntJNO33Ans$" target="_blank">
our repository</a> and on the OpenID Foundation <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/openid.net/developers/specs/__;!0Ns9_1dOjwg!JY0jeiE4y3ye6E_-a2dSiCZEgxpThPrsPV4nY70cbzPqHfMOwaGfEeRrVv7o5ntJkFLwvbw$" target="_blank">
Specifications page</a>. There are three documents in total: <o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<b>OpenID RISC Profile of IETF Security Events 1.0:</b> Describes our use of SET and SET transport mechanisms, and the Event Stream Management API.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="gmail-m-5182224284296513160msolistparagraph" style="mso-list:l1 level3 lfo2">
<b>OpenID RISC Event Types 1.</b>0: Defines event types for security events related to account-related use cases.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="gmail-m-5182224284296513160msolistparagraph" style="mso-list:l1 level3 lfo2">
<b>OAuth Event Types 1.</b>0: Defines event types for security events related to OAuth 2.0 use cases.<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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Read <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/lists.openid.net/pipermail/openid-specs-risc/__;!0Ns9_1dOjwg!JY0jeiE4y3ye6E_-a2dSiCZEgxpThPrsPV4nY70cbzPqHfMOwaGfEeRrVv7o5ntJQnclMH4$" target="_blank">
the mailing list archive</a>, particularly meeting notes from past meetings. Unfortunately, these are not curated anywhere and the list does not have a good search mechanism.<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<b>What is the best way to participate in the working group?</b> <o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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The simplest and easiest way is to post to the mailing list (note that you must have an IPR agreement on file with the OpenID Foundation in order to participate).<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Annabelle Richard Backman</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">"Richard Backman, Annabelle" <<a href="mailto:richanna@amazon.com" target="_blank">richanna@amazon.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, November 26, 2019 at 3:03 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Marius Scurtescu <<a href="mailto:marius.scurtescu@coinbase.com" target="_blank">marius.scurtescu@coinbase.com</a>>, Openid-specs-risc <<a href="mailto:openid-specs-risc@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">openid-specs-risc@lists.openid.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Openid-specs-risc] reminder: call today at 3 pm Pacific</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Scratch that, the call is open. We’ll see how many people make it, given the mixed messages.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Openid-specs-risc <<a href="mailto:openid-specs-risc-bounces@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">openid-specs-risc-bounces@lists.openid.net</a>> on behalf of Openid-specs-risc <<a href="mailto:openid-specs-risc@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">openid-specs-risc@lists.openid.net</a>><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>Marius Scurtescu <<a href="mailto:marius.scurtescu@coinbase.com" target="_blank">marius.scurtescu@coinbase.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, November 26, 2019 at 2:49 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Openid-specs-risc <<a href="mailto:openid-specs-risc@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">openid-specs-risc@lists.openid.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Openid-specs-risc] reminder: call today at 3 pm Pacific</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">We are running into last minute technical issues and we won't be able to have the call today. Sorry about that.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">We should be able to have the calls two weeks from today.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Best,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Marius<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On Tue, Nov 26, 2019, 8:53 AM Marius Scurtescu <<a href="mailto:marius.scurtescu@coinbase.com" target="_blank">marius.scurtescu@coinbase.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Just a reminder about the bi-weekly call today at 3 pm Pacific.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">The embedded calendar and the iCal download are up to date, but the wording on the page still needs to be updated:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/openid.net/wg/risc/__;!0Ns9_1dOjwg!JY0jeiE4y3ye6E_-a2dSiCZEgxpThPrsPV4nY70cbzPqHfMOwaGfEeRrVv7o5ntJLCYFT64$" target="_blank">https://openid.net/wg/risc/</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">In order to join the call:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Please join my meeting from your computer, tablet or smartphone.<br>
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