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<p class="MsoNormal">Marius,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Why do you expect the events document will change? Is your concern that new RISC events will be introduced over time, and the document will be updated to include those? Updating the original document like that may lead to confusion over
what it means for a service to say it “supports RISC”. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">"Phil Hunt (IDM)" <phil.hunt@oracle.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, September 12, 2017 at 7:08 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Marius Scurtescu <mscurtescu@google.com><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"Richard Backman, Annabelle" <richanna@amazon.com>, "openid-specs-risc@lists.openid.net" <openid-specs-risc@lists.openid.net>, "secevemt@ve7jtb.com" <secevemt@ve7jtb.com><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: RISC Profile<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Oidf has its own publication process and template. Let me know if you need a copy. It uses the older xml2rfc converter. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The life cycles are the same so i would just keep everything in one risc doc unless there is a good information or technical reason to separate (other then doc mgmt). <br>
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The IETF would not be a good place for the spec because most cases (at least the explicit cases) stem from OIDC use cases. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The only reason it might be worth discussing at IETF is the implicit cases. That could be done as a new charter in Secevents. But i think openid is fine unless this is something you feel all email providers need to consider supporting
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On Sep 12, 2017, at 5:26 PM, Marius Scurtescu <<a href="mailto:mscurtescu@google.com">mscurtescu@google.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I was planning to create a separate document for the event types. The reasoning was that event types will change more frequent and a separate document makes more sense. Let me know who would like to be an author and I will create the skeleton
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 5:16 PM, Richard Backman, Annabelle <<a href="mailto:richanna@amazon.com" target="_blank">richanna@amazon.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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Will the RISC event types be defined in this document, or in a separate document? I recall us talking about this in one of our F2Fs but I cannot remember the outcome. I do recall arguing that events defined in the future should be defined in separate documents.<o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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<b>Date: </b>Saturday, September 9, 2017 at 9:18 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:openid-specs-risc@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">openid-specs-risc@lists.openid.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:openid-specs-risc@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">openid-specs-risc@lists.openid.net</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Phillip Hunt <<a href="mailto:phil.hunt@oracle.com" target="_blank">phil.hunt@oracle.com</a>>, "Richard Backman, Annabelle" <<a href="mailto:richanna@amazon.com" target="_blank">richanna@amazon.com</a>>, "<a href="mailto:secevemt@ve7jtb.com" target="_blank">secevemt@ve7jtb.com</a>"
<<a href="mailto:secevemt@ve7jtb.com" target="_blank">secevemt@ve7jtb.com</a>><br>
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