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<p class="MsoNormal">I just saw this email. You can ignore my other email. <span style="font-family:"Apple Color Emoji"">
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">On 9/13/17, 2:15 PM, someone claiming to be "Openid-specs-risc on behalf of
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Oidf has its own publication process and template. Let me know if you need a copy. It uses the older xml2rfc converter. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Yes, please send me the template, or point me to it. Does this mean that we should drop markdown and use only xml? I am fine with xml, just trying to understand the constraints of the tool chain.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">What does older version of xml2rfc mean?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">The life cycles are the same so i would just keep everything in one risc doc unless there is a good information or technical reason to separate (other then doc mgmt). <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">As Annabelle mentions, by having two separate specs allows us to have a stable profile spec and a changing event type spec. I think that makes sense.<o:p></o:p></p>
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The IETF would not be a good place for the spec because most cases (at least the explicit cases) stem from OIDC use cases. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Agreed.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">The only reason it might be worth discussing at IETF is the implicit cases. That could be done as a new charter in Secevents. But i think openid is fine unless this is something you feel all email providers need
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">IMO the only thing we could consider discussing at IETF is the use case document, but not the profile or the event types.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 5:16 PM, Richard Backman, Annabelle <<a href="mailto:richanna@amazon.com" target="_blank">richanna@amazon.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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Thanks, Marius!<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span><![endif]>Is the intention to publish RISC as RFCs through IETF? Or is it just a convenient organizing structure for now?<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span><![endif]>Will the RISC event types be defined in this document, or in a separate document? I recall us talking about this in one of our F2Fs but I cannot remember the outcome. I do recall arguing that events defined in the future should be defined
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<b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Marius Scurtescu <<a href="mailto:mscurtescu@google.com" target="_blank">mscurtescu@google.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Saturday, September 9, 2017 at 9:18 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:openid-specs-risc@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">openid-specs-risc@lists.openid.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:openid-specs-risc@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">openid-specs-risc@lists.openid.net</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Phillip Hunt <<a href="mailto:phil.hunt@oracle.com" target="_blank">phil.hunt@oracle.com</a>>, "Richard Backman, Annabelle" <<a href="mailto:richanna@amazon.com" target="_blank">richanna@amazon.com</a>>, "<a href="mailto:secevemt@ve7jtb.com" target="_blank">secevemt@ve7jtb.com</a>"
<<a href="mailto:secevemt@ve7jtb.com" target="_blank">secevemt@ve7jtb.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>RISC Profile</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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