<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 12:02 PM, John Bradley <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ve7jtb@ve7jtb.com" target="_blank" class="cremed">ve7jtb@ve7jtb.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">Alias or aka <div><br></div><div>I am issuer foo and the subject is bar in my context. I also know them as “<a href="mailto:self-issued@hotmail.com" target="_blank" class="cremed">self-issued@hotmail.com</a><span>” in the context of Facebook and <span id="gc-number-117" class="gc-cs-link" title="Call with Google Voice">+15555551235</span> in the context of phone number.</span></div><div><br></div><div>That leaves the current definitions of sub and its unchanged.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>All the different ways the identity can be referred to must be defined by the profile. Right?</div><div><br></div><div>For the RISC profile I had in mind:</div><div>- iss+sub</div><div>- email</div><div>- phone_number</div><div><br></div><div>Obviously this is inspired by OpenID Connect, the same claims can be present in an Id Token.</div><div><br></div><div>If the above makes sense, then not sure if an array is needed.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><br></div><div>John B.</div><div><div class="h5"><div><br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Aug 3, 2017, at 2:57 PM, Phil Hunt (IDM) <<a href="mailto:phil.hunt@oracle.com" target="_blank" class="cremed">phil.hunt@oracle.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="m_922368068620098186Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div dir="auto"><div>Agreed. <br><br>Phil</div><div><br>On Aug 3, 2017, at 11:56 AM, John Bradley <<a href="mailto:ve7jtb@ve7jtb.com" target="_blank" class="cremed">ve7jtb@ve7jtb.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>Identity or whatever it is called may actually want to be an array, as there might be multiple synonyms.<div><br></div><div>That is why I was thinking of it more as an alias of sub + iss.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Aug 3, 2017, at 1:49 PM, Marius Scurtescu <<a href="mailto:mscurtescu@google.com" target="_blank" class="cremed">mscurtescu@google.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="m_922368068620098186Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 10:39 AM, Phil Hunt <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:phil.hunt@oracle.com" class="m_922368068620098186gmail-cremed m_922368068620098186cremed cremed" target="_blank">phil.hunt@oracle.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">yes. Instead of using “sub” you might define an attribute “identity” and it could be used as follows:<div><br></div><div>“identity”:{</div><div> “typ”:”oidc”,</div><div> “sub”:”8100552e17554422b6207b7<wbr>bd7a9bc76”,</div><div> “iss”:”<a href="http://myidp.example.com/" class="m_922368068620098186gmail-cremed m_922368068620098186cremed cremed" target="_blank">myidp.example.com</a>"</div><div>}</div><div><br></div><div>Or:</div><div><br></div><div>“identity”:{</div><div> “typ”:”scim”,</div><div> “$ref”:”<a href="https://scim.example.com/Users/8100552e17554422b6207b7bd7a9bc76" class="m_922368068620098186gmail-cremed m_922368068620098186cremed cremed" target="_blank">https://scim.example.c<wbr>om/Users/8100552e17554422b6207<wbr>b7bd7a9bc76</a>”</div><div>}</div><div><br></div><div>Or</div><div><br></div><div>(not sure these are the right claims, but you might include some claims from MODRNA like carrier identifiers if they are available)</div><div>“identity”:{</div><div> “typ”:”phone”,</div><div> “telephoneNumber”:”+1604123456<wbr>7”</div><div> “carrier”: <somevalue> </div><div>}</div><div><br></div><div>“identity”:{</div><div> “typ”:”emails”,</div><div> “mail”:”<a href="mailto:john.doe@example.com" class="m_922368068620098186gmail-cremed m_922368068620098186cremed cremed" target="_blank">john.doe@example.com</a>”</div><div>}</div><div><br></div><div>Note “identity” could be used at the top level or embedded in events payload. Top level if there is need to have multiple event types are expressed at once. Or, if part of the core spec to provide a consistent pattern for identifiers and to establish a registry of identifier types. Regardless at the top level, then “identity” would have to be registered as a JWT claim.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>This is a separate discussion we should have, I was proposing something different here, but I was trying to focus on the issuer conflict first.</div><div><br></div><div>That being said, I don't see why a typ claim is needed here. We can use the exact same claims as in an Id Token. SCIM needs a different profile than RISC.</div><div><br></div><div>Your examples from above using Id Token claims (minus the SCIM example):</div><div><br></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace">“identity”:{</font></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace"> “sub”:”8100552e17554422b6207b7<wbr>bd7a9bc76”,<br></font></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace"> “iss”:”<a href="http://myidp.example.com/" target="_blank" class="cremed">myidp.example.com</a>"</font></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace">}</font></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace"><br></font></div><div><div><font face="monospace, monospace">“identity”:{</font></div><div><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace"> “phone_number”:”+</span><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace">16041234567”</span><br></div><div><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace">}</span><br></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace"><br></font></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace">“identity”:{</font></div><div><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace"> “email”:”</span><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace"><a href="mailto:john.doe@example.com" target="_blank" class="cremed">john.doe@example.com</a></span><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace">”</span><br></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace">}</font></div></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-"><br><div>
<div style="letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;word-wrap:break-word"><div style="letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;word-wrap:break-word"><div style="letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;word-wrap:break-word"><div style="letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;word-wrap:break-word"><div style="letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;word-wrap:break-word"><div style="letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;word-wrap:break-word"><div style="letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;word-wrap:break-word"><div style="letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;word-wrap:break-word"><div style="letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;word-wrap:break-word"><div style="letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;word-wrap:break-word"><div style="letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;word-wrap:break-word"><div><span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:separate;line-height:normal"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><div><div>Phil</div><div><br></div><div>Oracle Corporation, Identity Cloud Services Architect & Standards</div><div>@independentid</div><div><a href="http://www.independentid.com/" class="m_922368068620098186gmail-cremed m_922368068620098186cremed cremed" target="_blank">www.independentid.com</a></div></div></div></div></span><a href="mailto:phil.hunt@oracle.com" class="m_922368068620098186gmail-cremed m_922368068620098186cremed cremed" target="_blank">phil.hunt@oracle.com</a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<br></span><div><div class="m_922368068620098186gmail-h5"><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Aug 3, 2017, at 10:28 AM, Marius Scurtescu <<a href="mailto:mscurtescu@google.com" class="m_922368068620098186gmail-cremed m_922368068620098186cremed cremed" target="_blank">mscurtescu@google.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 9:42 AM, John Bradley<span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span><span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ve7jtb@ve7jtb.com" class="m_922368068620098186gmail-cremed m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597cremed m_922368068620098186cremed cremed" target="_blank">ve7jtb@ve7jtb.com</a>></span><span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span>wr<wbr>ote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">I guess in principal sub could be a dictionary with a val and other meta data like a optional issuer.<div><br></div><div>We do that with sub in <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__openid.net_specs_openid-2Dconnect-2Dcore-2D1-5F0.html-23IndividualClaimsRequests&d=DwMFaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PQcxBKCX5YTpkKY057SbK10&r=JBm5biRrKugCH0FkITSeGJxPEivzjWwlNKe4C_lLIGk&m=0XvWuopUa1rUzdTHlWsUVZI7PePtDaGu3VrMUlwE2yU&s=VzfByRviJEJHNZfefEzIWK8KsuPhKsf_RXi6eOTxbeI&e=" class="m_922368068620098186gmail-cremed m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597cremed m_922368068620098186cremed cremed" target="_blank">Connect claims requests</a>.</div><div><br></div><div>However in responses sub is defined in </div><div><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__tools.ietf.org_html_rfc7519-23section-2D4.1.2&d=DwMFaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PQcxBKCX5YTpkKY057SbK10&r=JBm5biRrKugCH0FkITSeGJxPEivzjWwlNKe4C_lLIGk&m=0XvWuopUa1rUzdTHlWsUVZI7PePtDaGu3VrMUlwE2yU&s=5GZBJpUnQsgSTinzQRg5GLOPDs6YuqtEr_PEMy9JsMQ&e=" class="m_922368068620098186gmail-cremed m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597cremed m_922368068620098186cremed cremed" target="_blank">https://tools.ietf.org/html/rf<wbr>c7519#section-4.1.2</a> <span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span>as a string.</div><div><br></div><div>One option might be to have a new claim. sub-d that is a dictionary that you could use when you need a more complicated sub with a SubjectNameIdFormat and scope. How could that go wrong:)</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>That is option 3, right?</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><br></div><div>John B.</div><div><div class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597h5"><div><br></div><div> <br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Aug 3, 2017, at 12:19 PM, Phil Hunt (IDM) <<a href="mailto:phil.hunt@oracle.com" class="m_922368068620098186gmail-cremed m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597cremed m_922368068620098186cremed cremed" target="_blank">phil.hunt@oracle.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597m_1134046780769059888Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div dir="auto"><div>Lets not forget that we also have cases where subject is identified by email or telephone or other identifier (implicit fed cases). </div><div><br></div><div>Risc needs to have a subject type attribute to inform parsers how to identify the subject. The next question whether sub gets re-used as a general purpose attribute or whether specific attributes are used for each type (email, telephone). <br><br>In solving this broader requirement the sub/iss problem may also be resolved. </div><div><br>Phil</div><div><br>On Aug 3, 2017, at 1:52 AM, Nat Sakimura <<a href="mailto:sakimura@gmail.com" class="m_922368068620098186gmail-cremed m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597cremed m_922368068620098186cremed cremed" target="_blank">sakimura@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><p dir="ltr">My preference: If all SET only supports a single iss/sub pair, then 1. If a SET can have events for multiple iss/sub pair, then 2.<span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span></p><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">2017年8月3日(木) 7:49 Marius Scurtescu <<a href="mailto:mscurtescu@google.com" class="m_922368068620098186gmail-cremed m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597cremed m_922368068620098186cremed cremed" target="_blank">mscurtescu@google.com</a>>:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Each SET profile must define or clarify several aspects of the specs. For RISC most of these must only be only specified (like key resolution), but there is at least one issue for which we don't have an agreed on solution.<div><br></div><div>In some use cases the issuer of the SET is different from the issuer of the subject identifier, and at least in those cases there cannot be only one top level "iss" claim.</div><div><br></div><div>Here are the proposals I am aware of to solve this issue:</div><div><br></div><div>1. Move iss+sub to the event level. The drawback of this approach is redundancy when multiple events are present in the SET.</div><div><br></div><div><div><font face="monospace, monospace">{</font></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace"> <span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span>"jti": "3d0c3cf797584bd193bd0fb1bd4e7<wbr>d30",</font></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace"> <span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span>"iat": 1458496025,</font></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace"> <span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span>"iss": "<a href="https://tr.example.com/" class="m_922368068620098186gmail-cremed m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597cremed m_922368068620098186cremed cremed" target="_blank">https://tr.example.com</a>",</font></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace"> <span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span>"aud": "</font><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace"><a href="https://rv.example.com/" class="m_922368068620098186gmail-cremed m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597cremed m_922368068620098186cremed cremed" target="_blank">https://rv.example.com/</a>",</span><br></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace"> <span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span>"events": {</font></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace"> <span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span>"urn:ietf:params:risc:event:<wbr>sessions-revoked":</font></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace"> <span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span>{</font></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace"> <span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span>"iss": "<a href="https://example.com/" class="m_922368068620098186gmail-cremed m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597cremed m_922368068620098186cremed cremed" target="_blank">https://example.com</a>",</font></div><div><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace"> <span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span>"sub": "47635747",</span><br></div><div><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace"> <span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span>},</span><br></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace"> <span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span>"urn:ietf:params:risc:event:<wbr>tokens-revoked":</font></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace"> <span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span>{</font></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace"> <span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span>"iss": "<a href="https://example.com/" class="m_922368068620098186gmail-cremed m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597cremed m_922368068620098186cremed cremed" target="_blank">https://example.com</a>",</font></div><div><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace"> <span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span>"sub": "47635747",</span><br></div><div><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace"> <span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span>}</span><br></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace"> <span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span>}</font></div><div><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace">}</span><br></div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>1.1 Move only the subject "iss" to the event level and leave "sub" at the top level (next to the SET "iss"). I find this solution very confusing.</div><div><br></div><div><div><font face="monospace, monospace">{</font></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace"> <span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span>"jti": "3d0c3cf797584bd193bd0fb1bd4e7<wbr>d30",</font></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace"> <span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span>"iat": 1458496025,</font></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace"> <span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span>"iss": "<a href="https://tr.example.com/" class="m_922368068620098186gmail-cremed m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597cremed m_922368068620098186cremed cremed" target="_blank">https://tr.example.com</a>",</font></div><div><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace"> <span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span>"sub": "47635747",</span><br></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace"> <span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span>"aud": "</font><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace"><a href="https://rv.example.com/" class="m_922368068620098186gmail-cremed m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597cremed m_922368068620098186cremed cremed" target="_blank">https://rv.example.com/</a>",</span></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace"> <span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span>"events": {</font></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace"> <span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span>"urn:ietf:params:risc:event:<wbr>sessions-revoked":</font></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace"> <span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span>{</font></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace"> <span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span>"iss": "<a href="https://example.com/" class="m_922368068620098186gmail-cremed m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597cremed m_922368068620098186cremed cremed" target="_blank">https://example.com</a>",</font></div><div><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace"> <span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span>},</span><br></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace"> <span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span>"urn:ietf:params:risc:event:<wbr>tokens-revoked":</font></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace"> <span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span>{</font></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace"> <span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span>"iss": "<a href="https://example.com/" class="m_922368068620098186gmail-cremed m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597cremed m_922368068620098186cremed cremed" target="_blank">https://example.com</a>",</font></div><div><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace"> <span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span>}</span><br></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace"> <span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span>}</font></div><div><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace">}</span></div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>2. Move iss+sub immediately under the "events" claim. No redundancy in this case.</div><div><br></div><div><div><font face="monospace, monospace">{</font></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace"> <span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span>"jti": "3d0c3cf797584bd193bd0fb1bd4e7<wbr>d30",</font></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace"> <span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span>"iat": 1458496025,</font></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace"> <span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span>"iss": "<a href="https://tr.example.com/" class="m_922368068620098186gmail-cremed m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597cremed m_922368068620098186cremed cremed" target="_blank">https://tr.example.com</a>",</font></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace"> <span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span>"aud": "</font><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace"><a href="https://rv.example.com/" class="m_922368068620098186gmail-cremed m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597cremed m_922368068620098186cremed cremed" target="_blank">https://rv.example.com/</a>",</span><br></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace"> <span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span>"events": {</font></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace"> <span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span>"iss": "<a href="https://example.com/" class="m_922368068620098186gmail-cremed m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597cremed m_922368068620098186cremed cremed" target="_blank">https://example.com</a>",</font></div><div><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace"> <span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span>"sub": "47635747",</span><br></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace"> <span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span>"urn:ietf:params:risc:event:<wbr>sessions-revoked": </font><font face="monospace, monospace">{</font><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace">},</span></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace"> <span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span>"urn:ietf:params:risc:event:<wbr>tokens-revoked": </font><font face="monospace, monospace">{</font><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace">}</span></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace"> <span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span>}</font></div><div><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace">}</span></div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>3. Move iss+sub to a new nested claim.</div><div><br></div><div><div><font face="monospace, monospace">{</font></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace"> <span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span>"jti": "3d0c3cf797584bd193bd0fb1bd4e7<wbr>d30",</font></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace"> <span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span>"iat": 1458496025,</font></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace"> <span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span>"iss": "<a href="https://tr.example.com/" class="m_922368068620098186gmail-cremed m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597cremed m_922368068620098186cremed cremed" target="_blank">https://tr.example.com</a>",</font></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace"> <span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span>"aud": "</font><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace"><a href="https://rv.example.com/" class="m_922368068620098186gmail-cremed m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597cremed m_922368068620098186cremed cremed" target="_blank">https://rv.example.com/</a>",</span><br></div><div><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace"> <span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span>"target": {</span></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace"> <span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span>"iss": "<a href="https://example.com/" class="m_922368068620098186gmail-cremed m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597cremed m_922368068620098186cremed cremed" target="_blank">https://example.com</a>",</font></div><div><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace"> <span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span>"sub": "47635747",</span><br></div><div><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace"> <span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span>},</span></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace"> <span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span>"events": {</font></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace"> <span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span>"urn:ietf:params:risc:event:<wbr>sessions-revoked": </font><font face="monospace, monospace">{</font><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace">},</span><br></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace"> <span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span>"urn:ietf:params:risc:event:<wbr>tokens-revoked": </font><font face="monospace, monospace">{</font><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace">}</span></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace"> <span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span>}</font></div><div><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace">}</span></div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>4. Define a new top level issuer claim either for the SET or for the subject.</div><div><br></div><div><div><font face="monospace, monospace">{</font></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace"> <span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span>"jti": "3d0c3cf797584bd193bd0fb1bd4e7<wbr>d30",</font></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace"> <span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span>"iat": 1458496025,</font></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace"> <span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span>"iss": "<a href="https://tr.example.com/" class="m_922368068620098186gmail-cremed m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597cremed m_922368068620098186cremed cremed" target="_blank">https://tr.example.com</a>",</font></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace"> <span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span>"iss-sub": "<a href="https://example.com/" class="m_922368068620098186gmail-cremed m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597cremed m_922368068620098186cremed cremed" target="_blank">https://example.com</a>",</font></div><div><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace"> <span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span>"sub": "47635747",</span><br></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace"> <span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span>"aud": "</font><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace"><a href="https://rv.example.com/" class="m_922368068620098186gmail-cremed m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597cremed m_922368068620098186cremed cremed" target="_blank">https://rv.example.com/</a>",</span><br></div><div><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace"> <span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span>"events": {</span><br></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace"> <span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span>"urn:ietf:params:risc:event:<wbr>sessions-revoked": </font><font face="monospace, monospace">{</font><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace">},</span><br></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace"> <span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span>"urn:ietf:params:risc:event:<wbr>tokens-revoked": </font><font face="monospace, monospace">{</font><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace">}</span></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace"> <span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span>}</font></div><div><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace">}</span></div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>An open question is if this new iss+sub solution should be always required or if a top level iss+sub should also be allowed (when there is no conflict). I vote for having only one way for simplicity.</div><div><br></div><div>Once we decide on a solution we can start working on the RISC profile draft.</div><div><br></div><div>Thoughts?</div><div><br></div><div><div>Marius</div></div></div>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>Openid-specs-risc mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Openid-specs-risc@lists.openid.net" class="m_922368068620098186gmail-cremed m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597cremed m_922368068620098186cremed cremed" target="_blank">Openid-specs-risc@lists.openid<wbr>.net</a><br><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lists.openid.net_mailman_listinfo_openid-2Dspecs-2Drisc&d=DwMFaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PQcxBKCX5YTpkKY057SbK10&r=JBm5biRrKugCH0FkITSeGJxPEivzjWwlNKe4C_lLIGk&m=oELWrk4I8hITS0xtNBEzkxMNmGjdHfFGkwNTJluxMQM&s=WH0oHORcbz6GzolvV9301ap4nCL-qYRmD7wWIWPJnL8&e=" rel="noreferrer" class="m_922368068620098186gmail-cremed m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597cremed m_922368068620098186cremed cremed" target="_blank">http://lists.openid.net/mailma<wbr>n/listinfo/openid-specs-risc</a><br></blockquote></div><div dir="ltr">--<span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span><br></div><div class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597m_1134046780769059888gmail_signature"><p dir="ltr">Nat Sakimura</p><p dir="ltr">Chairman of the Board, OpenID Foundation</p></div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>______________________________<wbr>_________________</span><br><span>Openid-specs-risc mailing list</span><br><span><a href="mailto:Openid-specs-risc@lists.openid.net" class="m_922368068620098186gmail-cremed m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597cremed m_922368068620098186cremed cremed" target="_blank">Openid-specs-risc@lists.openid<wbr>.net</a></span><br><span><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lists.openid.net_mailman_listinfo_openid-2Dspecs-2Drisc&d=DwICAg&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PQcxBKCX5YTpkKY057SbK10&r=JBm5biRrKugCH0FkITSeGJxPEivzjWwlNKe4C_lLIGk&m=oELWrk4I8hITS0xtNBEzkxMNmGjdHfFGkwNTJluxMQM&s=WH0oHORcbz6GzolvV9301ap4nCL-qYRmD7wWIWPJnL8&e=" class="m_922368068620098186gmail-cremed m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597cremed m_922368068620098186cremed cremed" target="_blank">https://urldefense.proofpoint.<wbr>com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lists.op<wbr>enid.net_mailman_listinfo_open<wbr>id-2Dspecs-2Drisc&d=DwICAg&c=R<wbr>oP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PQcxBKCX5YT<wbr>pkKY057SbK10&r=JBm5biRrKugCH0F<wbr>kITSeGJxPEivzjWwlNKe4C_lLIGk&m<wbr>=oELWrk4I8hITS0xtNBEzkxMNmGjdH<wbr>fFGkwNTJluxMQM&s=WH0oHORcbz6Gz<wbr>olvV9301ap4nCL-qYRmD7wWIWPJnL8<wbr>&e=</a><span class="m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br></div></blockquote></div>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>Openid-specs-risc mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Openid-specs-risc@lists.openid.net" class="m_922368068620098186gmail-cremed m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597cremed m_922368068620098186cremed cremed" target="_blank">Openid-specs-risc@lists.openid<wbr>.net</a><br><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lists.openid.net_mailman_listinfo_openid-2Dspecs-2Drisc&d=DwMFaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PQcxBKCX5YTpkKY057SbK10&r=JBm5biRrKugCH0FkITSeGJxPEivzjWwlNKe4C_lLIGk&m=0XvWuopUa1rUzdTHlWsUVZI7PePtDaGu3VrMUlwE2yU&s=EIvVFfL8djzqG2zMxSY4EPjMuBglQoE0xKzdgiOiOK8&e=" class="m_922368068620098186gmail-cremed m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597cremed m_922368068620098186cremed cremed" target="_blank">http://lists.openid.net/mailma<wbr>n/listinfo/openid-specs-risc</a><br></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></div><br>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>Openid-specs-risc mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Openid-specs-risc@lists.openid.net" class="m_922368068620098186gmail-cremed m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597cremed m_922368068620098186cremed cremed" target="_blank">Openid-specs-risc@lists.openid<wbr>.net</a><br><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lists.openid.net_mailman_listinfo_openid-2Dspecs-2Drisc&d=DwMFaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PQcxBKCX5YTpkKY057SbK10&r=JBm5biRrKugCH0FkITSeGJxPEivzjWwlNKe4C_lLIGk&m=0XvWuopUa1rUzdTHlWsUVZI7PePtDaGu3VrMUlwE2yU&s=EIvVFfL8djzqG2zMxSY4EPjMuBglQoE0xKzdgiOiOK8&e=" rel="noreferrer" class="m_922368068620098186gmail-cremed m_922368068620098186gmail-m_-2518339591068322597cremed m_922368068620098186cremed cremed" target="_blank">http://lists.openid.net/mailma<wbr>n/listinfo/openid-specs-risc</a></blockquote></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div>
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