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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#002060">openid.ns values in
<a href="http://openid.net/specs/openid-authentication-2_0.html#anchor4">http://openid.net/specs/openid-authentication-2_0.html#anchor4</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#002060">Claimed Identifier URI in
<a href="http://openid.net/specs/openid-authentication-2_0.html#discovery">http://openid.net/specs/openid-authentication-2_0.html#discovery</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#002060"> (there are plenty more in this spec)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#002060">Attribute exchange namespace at
<a href="http://openid.net/specs/openid-attribute-exchange-1_0.html#anchor2">http://openid.net/specs/openid-attribute-exchange-1_0.html#anchor2</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#002060">PAPE namespace at
<a href="http://openid.net/specs/openid-provider-authentication-policy-extension-1_0.html#anchor3">
http://openid.net/specs/openid-provider-authentication-policy-extension-1_0.html#anchor3</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#002060">Issuer URI at
<a href="https://openid.net/specs/openid-connect-discovery-1_0.html#IssuerDiscovery">
https://openid.net/specs/openid-connect-discovery-1_0.html#IssuerDiscovery</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="http://openid.net/specs/openid-connect-backchannel-1_0.html#LogoutToken">
http://openid.net/specs/openid-connect-backchannel-1_0.html#LogoutToken</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="file:///C:/mbj/DSG/OpenID/MODRNA/openid-connect-modrna-authentication-1_0.html#rfc.section.4">
file:///C:/mbj/DSG/OpenID/MODRNA/openid-connect-modrna-authentication-1_0.html#rfc.section.4</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="http://openid.net/specs/openid-connect-eap-acr-values-1_0.html#ClaimsContents">
http://openid.net/specs/openid-connect-eap-acr-values-1_0.html#ClaimsContents</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#002060">There are plenty more. These are just a quick subset I knew about off the top of my head.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#002060">Yes, it would be OK to put “risc” in the name. The, for instance you might use this URI for Account Deleted:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#002060">IETF and “secevent” don’t really have a reason to be in these event names, because it’s the OpenID RISC WG defining these events, not the IETF or the SecEvent
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#002060"> -- Mike<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Marius Scurtescu [mailto:mscurtescu@google.com]
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 12, 2017 1:34 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Mike Jones <Michael.Jones@microsoft.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Phil Hunt (IDM) <phil.hunt@oracle.com>; openid-specs-risc@lists.openid.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Openid-specs-risc] RISC event URIs<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Similarly, what about "ietf" and "secevent" being part of the URI?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Can you point to some of these other specifications and URIs?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#002060">I’d suggest that RISC event names be
<a href="http://openid.net" target="_blank">openid.net</a> URIs. For instance, I’d use the event name
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#002060"><a href="http://schemas.openid.net/event/account-deleted" target="_blank">http://schemas.openid.net/event/account-deleted</a></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#002060">
for the Account Deleted event that Marius described. That would be consistent with how other things have been historically named in OpenID specifications.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Openid-specs-risc [mailto:<a href="mailto:openid-specs-risc-bounces@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">openid-specs-risc-bounces@lists.openid.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Phil Hunt (IDM)<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 11, 2017 3:00 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Marius Scurtescu <<a href="mailto:mscurtescu@google.com" target="_blank">mscurtescu@google.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:openid-specs-risc@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">openid-specs-risc@lists.openid.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Openid-specs-risc] RISC event URIs</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I think your proposal of secevents starting with “urn:ietf:params:secevent:event-type:” is one worth proposing in
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On 4/11/17, 2:16 PM, someone claiming to be "Marius Scurtescu" <<a href="mailto:mscurtescu@google.com" target="_blank">mscurtescu@google.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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"urn:ietf:params:secevent:event-type:risc:sessions-revoked" would be an event URI, the key under the "events" claim
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"urn:ietf:params:secevent:aud-client-id:<client-id>" would be the aud claim, and this solves the "SET re-played as an access token" issue<o:p></o:p></p>
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On 4/11/17, 10:56 AM, someone claiming to be "Openid-specs-risc on behalf of Marius Scurtescu" <<a href="mailto:openid-specs-risc-bounces@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">openid-specs-risc-bounces@lists.openid.net</a> on behalf of
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While talking about events, we should also decide how the event URI will look like for RISC.<o:p></o:p></p>
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I propose we use URN sub-delegation for "ietf" namespace (RFC 3553), something like:<o:p></o:p></p>
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Maybe instead of "event-type" in the above URNs we should use "profile"? Since "risc" above signifies a whole class of event type and not a particular one:<o:p></o:p></p>
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