<div dir="ltr">Notes from today:<div><br></div><div><span id="gmail-docs-internal-guid-379ef38f-edef-5131-5839-071771df345c"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">March 20</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Adam Dawes, Marius Scurtescu, Mike Jones, John Bradley, Phil Hunt, Annabelle Backman, Edmund Jay, Dick Hardt</span></p><br><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">IETF Security Events Meeting</span></p><ul style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Run through updates on the spec</span></p></li><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Differentiating SETs from JWTs</span></p></li><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Conflict around issuer</span></p></li><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Distribution draft- what do we want from it</span></p></li><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4pTybM07UsVOGlPdWo0eE5MNEU/view?usp=sharing" style="text-decoration-line:none"><span style="font-size:11pt;background-color:transparent;text-decoration-line:underline;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Phil’s Venn diagram</span></a></p></li></ul><br><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Dick: lots of the discussion in RISC has been around SET issues and we should be doing that within the IETF. General agreement to move this discussion to IETF and we probably need to pick up the pace and have regular calls on the SET side. AI: Discuss logistics at the IETF. </span></p><br><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Google RISC signals:</span></p><ul style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Still looking for partners to start sharing data. Ready to share data with explicit relying parties but needs more work to be ready for implicit RPs.</span></p></li></ul><br><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Legal Agreement</span></p><ul style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Dick to set up a call with various lawyers on the agreement.</span></p></li></ul><br><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Telephone providers</span></p><ul style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:11pt;background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Discussion about how we can get the Operators to participate. AI: John to do some investigating. </span></li></ul></span></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 2:57 PM, Phil Hunt <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:phil.hunt@oracle.com" target="_blank">phil.hunt@oracle.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">I think these venn diagrams might help to understand the overlap in all the SEC communities.<div></div></div><br><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div></div><div><div>
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