<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>RISC use case is typically bi-directional so events can be used. It also works better because usually a receiver may add only or drop only depending on implicit or explicit federation. </div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Adam argued for all other update items to be done OOB. </div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">That just left error signalling for the receiver to find out why events were not coming. </div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">We left it that scim can be quickly added for those that want full automated CRUD (oracle does). Buy it would not be required in core. <br><br>Phil</div><div><br>On Feb 28, 2017, at 8:32 AM, Hardt, Dick <<a href="mailto:dick@amazon.com">dick@amazon.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Perhaps I am missing it, but I don’t see a mechanism for the receiver to add / delete which subjects the receiver is interested in. Is this not included, or am I misunderstanding what is
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">I had previously promised to break up the distribution draft into components. I ran into some difficulty as to how subscribers (receivers) of events find out if the publisher is having problems delivering events.
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