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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">The receiver could signal to the transmitter what the user wants. The transmitter could confirm and/or query what the user wants.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Yes, the transmitter decides if events are transmitted, but one would also expect the transmitter to respect the user’s preferences.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">/Dick<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Thanks. However, I think the subscribe proposal may be backwards. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">If <u>transmitter (aka publisher) </u>expects to let its users (whether rp or idp) control whether
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">The per user subscription control requirement seems to be the prerogative of the transmitter (publisher) and not of the receiver. <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">I expect to let users opt out of sharing. I can envision giving the user an option to decline security event sharing when federating.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">We will need a standard API to subscribe subjects when we are not federating. The
<a href="http://amazon.com">amazon.com</a> use case where we are sharing security events based on email address.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in">On 2/18/17, 3:34 PM, someone claiming to be "Phil Hunt" <<a href="mailto:phil.hunt@oracle.com">phil.hunt@oracle.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in">More importantly, I have not heard a case where users would be allowed to decline security event sharing and still consent to federation. <br>
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The consent we've talked about is part of legal terms in the explicit dialog or of service provider TOS when users supply a foreign recovery email. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in">If that is the case I am not sure we need to have a standard api for registration of subscriber subjects. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in">When Adam was labeling the implicit and explicit RPs, I originally thought the implicit was the OAuth flow as there was an implicit subscription by the RP of RISC events.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in">Is there ever a time in RISC where a user who has chosen to federate would not be added to the stream between providers? And if so, doesn’t the IDP already know this? Why wouldn’t an IDP who is a transmitter just
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="color:black">Oracle Corporation, Identity Cloud Services & Identity Standards</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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