<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Thanks. However, I think the subscribe proposal may be backwards. </div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Underlines for better clarity....</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">If <u>transmitter (aka publisher) </u>expects to let its users (whether rp or idp) control whether <u>transmitter</u> transmits their events, why would you let the receiver control your users info?</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">The per user subscription control requirement seems to be the prerogative of the transmitter (publisher) and not of the receiver. <br><br>Phil</div><div><br>On Feb 19, 2017, at 3:16 PM, Hardt, Dick <<a href="mailto:dick@amazon.com">dick@amazon.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">I expect to let users opt out of sharing. I can envision giving the user an option to decline security event sharing when federating.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">We will need a standard API to subscribe subjects when we are not federating. The <a href="http://amazon.com">amazon.com</a> use case where we are sharing security events based on email address.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">More importantly, I have not heard a case where users would be allowed to decline security event sharing and still consent to federation. <br>
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The consent we've talked about is part of legal terms in the explicit dialog or of service provider TOS when users supply a foreign recovery email. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">If that is the case I am not sure we need to have a standard api for registration of subscriber subjects. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">When Adam was labeling the implicit and explicit RPs, I originally thought the implicit was the OAuth flow as there was an implicit subscription by the RP of RISC events.<br>
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