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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">On 10/3/16, 10:35 AM, someone claiming to be "Openid-specs-risc on behalf of Adam Dawes" <<a href="mailto:openid-specs-risc-bounces@lists.openid.net">openid-specs-risc-bounces@lists.openid.net</a>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Notes for today's meeting at: <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XZi2p4A5LXLJD7sysQTg33mCtC_yYgdlwHMnmt-12Gk/edit">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XZi2p4A5LXLJD7sysQTg33mCtC_yYgdlwHMnmt-12Gk/edit#</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black">Oct 3</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black">Attendees: Adam Dawes, Marius Scurtescu, John Bradley, Brad Hill, Dick Hardt, Nat Sakimura, Phil Hunt, Anton Taborszky, Henrik Biering, Dale Olds</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">AI: Adam to nail down timing of F2F. Right now it will be for Friday morning (10 - 3, lunch included). If possible, will move to Thursday afternoon. <o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black">RISC F2F Agenda<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:black">Hijacking<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:black">Session revocation/Change password<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:black">Token revocation (flavors)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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will move to Thursday afternoon.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Dick: No <span style="background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">clear</span> <s><span style="background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">one really sees any
</span></s><span style="background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">advantage</span> of the email header. It is perfectly possible to message the user directly in tandem with the API approach.<br>
John: this only provides a little cover that the user received an email. But doesn’t tell whether was really informed or gave consent. Also raises concerns over spying in email.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Dick: Send general notice that new capability to protect you across your favorite apps. Give ability to opt out before it starts to happen.<br>
Phil: Maybe initiate this based on some action from the user- first time a user’s app registers for notifications for the user.<br>
Dick: probably scale this up by starting with new users and see if there is any negative reaction to it.
<span style="background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">We would want to be transparent to our users when we roll this out.</span><br>
Brad: To the extent we (FB) are going to do this, we are just going to do it, based on existing language in our ToS that allows sharing data specifically to prevent fraud and abuse. That will mean we need to have agreements with other providers about limitations
on the use of this data. But that is much easier to do than to get individual user opt-in.<br>
Nat: I talked with WP29 person, and she did not find it problematic either.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black">Transport discussion Phil: Rushed to get this ready for the charter. Is a parallel with Netconf, xml-based messaging protocol. Lots of parallels but totally different
stack. Good to check that spec to identify parallel use cases but don’t see any convergence. Next steps: waiting for next telechat (10/13) for SET workgroup. Planning on 1 hour meeting Seoul IETF (mid November). Want specific feedback on mutual registration
to subscribe to feed. Need to figure out key discovery/rotation needs to get solidified. Microsoft wants a simpler more stripped down approach of just http post without more of the resilience. Phil will put together SET and transport talks at IIW and that
will be the primer for everyone for the F2F. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Sun, Oct 2, 2016 at 10:11 PM, Adam Dawes <<a href="mailto:adawes@google.com" target="_blank">adawes@google.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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RISC F2F Agenda<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2">
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<p class="MsoNormal">United States: <a href="tel:%2B1%20%28312%29%20757-3119" target="_blank">
+1 (312) 757-3119</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Australia: <a href="tel:%2B61%202%209091%207603" target="_blank">
+61 2 9091 7603</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Austria: +43 (0) 7 2088 0716<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Belgium: +32 (0) 28 08 4372<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Canada: <a href="tel:%2B1%20%28647%29%20497-9380" target="_blank">
+1 (647) 497-9380</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Denmark: +45 (0) 69 91 84 58<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Finland: +358 (0) 931 58 1773<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">France: +33 (0) 170 950 590<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Germany: <a href="tel:%2B49%20%280%29%20692%205736%207300" target="_blank">
+49 (0) 692 5736 7300</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Ireland: +353 (0) 15 133 006<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Italy: +39 0 699 26 68 65<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Netherlands: +31 (0) 208 080 759<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">New Zealand: <a href="tel:%2B64%209%20974%209579" target="_blank">
+64 9 974 9579</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Norway: <a href="tel:%2B47%2021%2004%2030%2059" target="_blank">
+47 21 04 30 59</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Spain: <a href="tel:%2B34%20931%2076%201534" target="_blank">
+34 931 76 1534</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Sweden: +46 (0) 852 500 691<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Switzerland: +41 (0) 435 0026 89<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">United Kingdom: <a href="tel:%2B44%20%280%29%2020%203713%205011" target="_blank">
+44 (0) 20 3713 5011</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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