[Openid-specs-risc] Proposing two new CAEP event types

Saxe, Dean deansaxe at amazon.com
Mon Feb 12 18:24:33 UTC 2024


Hi Atul,

A few quick comments on the suggested additions:

uaf describes a FIDO protocol which has the concept of user presence, so it may be wise to find an alternative claim name to avoid confusion.

When you describe user presence, I immediately think about the user presenting an authentication factor that indicates that they are present for the transaction.  For example, presenting an inherence factor (fingerprint) to unlock a FIDO hardware security key (e.g. Yubikey bio) as part of user authentication.  I don’t think this is what you’re trying to communicate with the User Present event.  Can you describe this event in more concrete terms?  There may be a naming collision here, as well, that we should avoid to minimize confusion about what the event type means.

Thanks,
-dhs

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Hi all,
My colleagues at SGNL and I have come up with new event types that we think will be useful for everyone. They indicate that a user session has been established, and that a user presence has been observed. Please see the attached slides to get an overview. We can discuss this in our next working group meeting.

Looking forward to your feedback.
Thanks,
Atul

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