[Openid-specs-risc] [External Sender] Re: reminder: call today at 3 pm Pacific

[David Skyberg]

I agree we need to ensure that discussions are scoped to the WG charter.  I
do think that there is a general protocol and data format aspect to the
discussion that may be germain.  For example, if we assume that
clearinghouse use cases may encompass sending/receiving collections, rather
than single events, should we entertain revision to the current data
format? However, broader questions such as privacy implications of a
clearinghouse model are likely out of scope.  Interesting, but out of
scope. ;)

Cheers,
=D=

*---*
*David Skyberg*
Product Director
Capital One Identity Services
703.439.8876
david.skyberg at capitalone.com


On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 3:11 PM Richard Backman, Annabelle <
richanna at amazon.com> wrote:

> It should be noted that the current charter
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://openid.net/wg/risc/charter/__;!0Ns9_1dOjwg!L_IHRWDKAjugqfAYNWdNwfIR4zRqmSXC6S-RacX8K66DGod-tTnqQ9Ml6_PayDE77Q5MnaQ$>
> and draft revised charter
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://bitbucket.org/openid/risc/raw/93d4d7afaf0d59e142479052a785d63d8129d8b4/working-group-charter.pdf__;!0Ns9_1dOjwg!L_IHRWDKAjugqfAYNWdNwfIR4zRqmSXC6S-RacX8K66DGod-tTnqQ9Ml6_PayDE7D4vW0_Q$>
> say that the following is out of scope for the working group:
>
>
>
> Definition of APIs and underlying mechanisms for connecting to,
> interacting with and operating centralized databases or intelligence
> clearinghouses when these are used to communicate security events between
> account providers.
>
>
>
> So part of this discussion needs to be: is this work that we think belongs
> in the working group?
>
>
>
> –
>
> Annabelle Richard Backman
>
> AWS Identity
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *Openid-specs-risc <openid-specs-risc-bounces at lists.openid.net> on
> behalf of Openid-specs-risc <openid-specs-risc at lists.openid.net>
> *Reply-To: *David Skyberg <david.skyberg at capitalone.com>
> *Date: *Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 11:40 AM
> *To: *Openid-specs-risc <openid-specs-risc at lists.openid.net>
> *Subject: *Re: [Openid-specs-risc] [External Sender] Re: reminder: call
> today at 3 pm Pacific
>
>
>
> Hi folks,
>
> I would like to suggest a discussion topic - Clearing House support.
>
> The spec is currently targeted at point to point event exchange.  There
> are also very valid use cases for supporting a pub/sub style clearing house
> model.  This was the goal of Andrew Nash's startup, Confyrm (acquired by
> Capital One).
>
> There are at least two interesting threads under this topic:
>
>    - Event format, control plane, and protocol requirements for clearing
>    house support.
>    - Privacy ('nuff said)
>
> I've had a couple very limited conversations (seriously, like 5 minutes)
> with Annabelle and Mike.  Both agree we should at least start the
> discussion. I'm open to bribery.  If you have a doc that needs editing, or
> your car needs cleaning, I'm your guy.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> =D=
>
>
>
> *---*
>
> *David Skyberg*
>
> Product Director
>
> Capital One Identity Services
>
> 703.439.8876
>
> david.skyberg at capitalone.com
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 6:27 PM Richard Backman, Annabelle via
> Openid-specs-risc <openid-specs-risc at lists.openid.net> wrote:
>
> Apologies for the confusion over the call today. We had some difficulties
> getting access to start the call. That should be resolved by the next one.
>
>
>
> We did hold a brief call this afternoon, which we ended early due to low
> participation (unsurprising, given the confusion). Notes from that meeting
> follow:
>
>
>
> *Re-Chartering Update*
>
> The proposed charter was submitted to the Specifications Council last week
> after amendment based on feedback received at the CAEP face-to-face
> meeting. We are awaiting confirmation of the re-chartering from the Council.
>
>
>
> *RISC Ramp Up*
>
> We answered a few questions regarding how to get ramped up on the RISC
> work, and how to participate:
>
>    - *How can I learn about the work that the working group has done so
>    far?*
>
>
>    - Read the working group’s documents, available in our repository
>       <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/bitbucket.org/openid/risc/src/master/__;!0Ns9_1dOjwg!JY0jeiE4y3ye6E_-a2dSiCZEgxpThPrsPV4nY70cbzPqHfMOwaGfEeRrVv7o5ntJNO33Ans$>
>       and on the OpenID Foundation Specifications page
>       <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/openid.net/developers/specs/__;!0Ns9_1dOjwg!JY0jeiE4y3ye6E_-a2dSiCZEgxpThPrsPV4nY70cbzPqHfMOwaGfEeRrVv7o5ntJkFLwvbw$>.
>       There are three documents in total:
>
>
>    - *OpenID RISC Profile of IETF Security Events 1.0:* Describes our use
>          of SET and SET transport mechanisms, and the Event Stream Management API.
>          - *OpenID RISC Event Types 1.*0: Defines event types for
>          security events related to account-related use cases.
>          - *OAuth Event Types 1.*0: Defines event types for security
>          events related to OAuth 2.0 use cases.
>
>
>    - Read the mailing list archive
>       <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/lists.openid.net/pipermail/openid-specs-risc/__;!0Ns9_1dOjwg!JY0jeiE4y3ye6E_-a2dSiCZEgxpThPrsPV4nY70cbzPqHfMOwaGfEeRrVv7o5ntJQnclMH4$>,
>       particularly meeting notes from past meetings. Unfortunately, these are not
>       curated anywhere and the list does not have a good search mechanism.
>
>
>    - *What is the best way to participate in the working group?*
>
>
>    - The simplest and easiest way is to post to the mailing list (note
>       that you must have an IPR agreement on file with the OpenID Foundation in
>       order to participate).
>
>
>
> –
>
> Annabelle Richard Backman
>
> AWS Identity
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *"Richard Backman, Annabelle" <richanna at amazon.com>
> *Date: *Tuesday, November 26, 2019 at 3:03 PM
> *To: *Marius Scurtescu <marius.scurtescu at coinbase.com>, Openid-specs-risc
> <openid-specs-risc at lists.openid.net>
> *Subject: *Re: [Openid-specs-risc] reminder: call today at 3 pm Pacific
>
>
>
> Scratch that, the call is open. We’ll see how many people make it, given
> the mixed messages.
>
>
>
> –
>
> Annabelle Richard Backman
>
> AWS Identity
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *Openid-specs-risc <openid-specs-risc-bounces at lists.openid.net> on
> behalf of Openid-specs-risc <openid-specs-risc at lists.openid.net>
> *Reply-To: *Marius Scurtescu <marius.scurtescu at coinbase.com>
> *Date: *Tuesday, November 26, 2019 at 2:49 PM
> *To: *Openid-specs-risc <openid-specs-risc at lists.openid.net>
> *Subject: *Re: [Openid-specs-risc] reminder: call today at 3 pm Pacific
>
>
>
> We are running into last minute technical issues and we won't be able to
> have the call today. Sorry about that.
>
>
>
> We should be able to have the calls two weeks from today.
>
>
>
> Best,
>
> Marius
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 26, 2019, 8:53 AM Marius Scurtescu <
> marius.scurtescu at coinbase.com> wrote:
>
> Just a reminder about the bi-weekly call today at 3 pm Pacific.
>
>
>
> The embedded calendar and the iCal download are up to date, but the
> wording on the page still needs to be updated:
>
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