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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I was on mute for the call, so I didn’t get to elaborate on supporting apps that are not pre-registered at the App-Info endpoint. I believe this is an interesting
use case, as it enables more ‘open’ ecosystems (that don’t require pre-established trust points). “In a world…” where there is a general purpose TA on the device that can authenticate the user and release access tokens for various services, App developers
are free to build enhanced / mashup services without requiring the user to go through OAuth flows for each service.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">This may be a bit like UMA where a user defines a profile of data that can be accessed by third parties.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">A simple flow may be:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">(1)<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">General purpose TA on mobile collects account authorizations for the user, and stores the refresh tokens and endpoints.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Could be done through the TA on demand (when a service is requested) or<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">b.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Could be done by Apps that share data by sending access tokens to the TA at the user’s request…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">User installs a new App, ‘Happy Heart’, which asks the TA for tokens for FriendBook (social), and FitnessOnline (online heart rate tracking/graphing/calorie
counting).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">User is asked by TA “do you authorize access to FriendBook and FitnessOnline for the App Happy Heart?” – user consents<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">User (selects a profile/ accounts at FriendBook to share) authenticates to the TA<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">(5)<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">TA obtains refresh/access tokens for the Happy Heart App and returns them.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Happy Heart App is able to access the FriendBook and FitnessOne services.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Rather than a Trusted / Registered App ecosystem, trust is left in the hands of the user and the resource servers – the TA just stores account authorizations
and App consent. This is a trusted convenience for users as their cloud presence grows, and Apps wish to make use of more and more cloud services for a user.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Feedback more than welcome – a lot of detail was glossed over ;)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">MV<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> openid-specs-native-apps-bounces@lists.openid.net [mailto:openid-specs-native-apps-bounces@lists.openid.net]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>John Bradley<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 01, 2014 11:01 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> openid-specs-native-apps@lists.openid.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Openid-specs-native-apps] Notes from Apr 1 NAAPS Call<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">John Bradley<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Klaas Wierenga<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Updated Klaas on activities.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Discussed the options for 3rd party API that were in the email I sent.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Mike wants to support a use case for apps that are not pre-registed in the app-info endpoint.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#343634">Token agent multiple personas. Klaas wouldn't want want to mix his company credential with personal services.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#343634">We need to think about allowing the user to select the backing identity.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#343634">We may need to look at the call time so that we get more people. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#343634">The next openID F2F is at Yahoo preceding IIW. The NAAPS WG is scheduled from 4 - 5 pm but may start earlier.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/openid-foundation-workshop-tickets-1174511997">
https://www.eventbrite.com/e/openid-foundation-workshop-tickets-1174511997</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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