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<span style="letter-spacing: normal; font-weight: 400;">Axel,</span></div>
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we're in the process of establishing a formal liaison relationship between the CAMARA Project/Linux Foundation and the OpenID Foundation and just waiting for document signatures to completed.</span></div>
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external relationship that the CAMARA Project has now established and is now being formalized between the two organizations. Once in place, I would envision that the communication would be more frequent and the OpenID Foundation would be in a better position
to help guide and assist the CAMARA Project in the technical development.</span></div>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Axel.Nennker@telekom.de <Axel.Nennker@telekom.de><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 22, 2023 5:54 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Bjorn Hjelm <bjorn.hjelm@oidf.org>; openid-specs-mobile-profile@lists.openid.net <openid-specs-mobile-profile@lists.openid.net>; openid-specs-ekyc-ida@lists.openid.net <openid-specs-ekyc-ida@lists.openid.net>; openid-specs-fapi@lists.openid.net <openid-specs-fapi@lists.openid.net><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Shilpa.Padgaonkar@telekom.de <Shilpa.Padgaonkar@telekom.de>; Dawid.Wroblewski@t-mobile.pl <Dawid.Wroblewski@t-mobile.pl><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Camara & openid connect standards, and consent and purpose</font>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Hi all,</span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">in the Linux Foundation’s Camara project “consent” for API access is an important topic.</span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt"><a href="https://github.com/camaraproject/IdentityAndConsentManagement">https://github.com/camaraproject/IdentityAndConsentManagement</a></span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">We discussed “consent”, “purpose”, etc in the past in the OIDF in several working groups but people felt that the topic is not well understood, and most of the details were not standardized.</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">The eKYC-IDA group opted for going the way of defining a parameter “purpose” which is “some text”.
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt"><a href="https://openid.net/specs/openid-connect-4-identity-assurance-1_0-13.html#name-transaction-specific-purpos">https://openid.net/specs/openid-connect-4-identity-assurance-1_0-13.html#name-transaction-specific-purpos</a></span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Instead of “some text” others suggested to encode the purpose/consent into scope like e.g.
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<pre><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">“</span>scope=FraudPreventionandDetection:check-sim-swap-date<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">”</span></pre>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt"><a href="https://github.com/camaraproject/IdentityAndConsentManagement/issues/32"><span lang="EN-GB"><span lang="EN-GB">https://github.com/camaraproject/IdentityAndConsentManagement/issues/32</span></span></a></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt"></span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif"> </span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Sorry for cross-posting to MODRNA and eKYC-IDA and FAPI.
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Which OIDF would be the right one to tackle consent/purpose (again)?</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Or please contribute to the issue
</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt"><a href="https://github.com/camaraproject/IdentityAndConsentManagement/issues/32"><span lang="EN-GB"><span lang="EN-GB">https://github.com/camaraproject/IdentityAndConsentManagement/issues/32</span></span></a>
and others directly.</span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Also, if you are a telco employee who participates in OIDF WGs while your colleagues are working in Camara, please reach out to your colleagues.</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Kind regards</span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Axel</span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Bjorn and Gail presented OIDF to Camara</span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt"><a href="https://github.com/camaraproject/WorkingGroups/blob/main/Commonalities/documentation/SupportingDocuments/OIDF-CAMARA%20Project%20Presentation%20Jun%201%202023.pptx">https://github.com/camaraproject/WorkingGroups/blob/main/Commonalities/documentation/SupportingDocuments/OIDF-CAMARA%20Project%20Presentation%20Jun%201%202023.pptx</a></span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt"><a href="https://openid.net/specs/openid-connect-user-questioning-api-1_0-11.html">https://openid.net/specs/openid-connect-user-questioning-api-1_0-11.html</a></span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt"><a href="https://openid.net/specs/fapi-grant-management.html#name-historical-grant-authorisat">https://openid.net/specs/fapi-grant-management.html#name-historical-grant-authorisat</a></span></p>
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