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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Apologies for not attending, but was busy with other priorities and catching up the backlog due to holidays.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Currently login_hint supports : plain MSISDN, encrypted MSISDN and PCR
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Venkatasivakumar Boyalakuntla | Technical Expert |Mobile Connect Architecture | Identity| GSM Association |</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">"philippe.clement@orange.com" <philippe.clement@orange.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, 9 January 2018 at 16:29<br>
<b>To: </b>Bjorn Helm <Bjorn.Hjelm@VerizonWireless.com>, "openid-specs-mobile-profile@lists.openid.net" <openid-specs-mobile-profile@lists.openid.net>, Venkatasivakumar Boyalakuntla <vboyalakuntla@gsma.com>, Gautam Hazari <GHazari@gsma.com><br>
<b>Subject: </b>MODRNA WG Call on Jan 9th 2018 preliminary minutes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">John, Gonzalo, Hubert, Jörg, MG, Petteri, Philippe, Bjorn,</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Bjorn to question Nat for the progress on it.
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">#33: modrna – claim: I would vote to not put this into the basic authentication spec. In my opinion the topic here is about authorization of a transaction not about
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">#22: is actually about the same thing. So I would vote to merge #32 and #22 an consider an additional document to handle those transactional authorizations.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">#38: amr values. Those are not really specific to mobile connect so they should be addressed in RFC 8176.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">Changing an RFC is not possible, but adding a doc
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">i</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">s, maybe external.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">To collect possible amr first</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">#39: error handling: We really should reserve some time to discuss this during a WG call<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">Some people think the RP has to check if the returned info are acceptable and that it should be up to the RP to decide according the returned info. Other ones think
that error handling has a benefit.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">A case is discussed regarding the request of a certain acr by the RP.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">5.5.1.1 of the OIDC spec specifies
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">how to deal with requested acr claim from the RP, should it be essential or requested by acr_values for the id_token</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">#40: loa4 handling: We could take the approach from the current mobile connect profile here. (And pull it down to the MODRNA spec)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">No possible implementation of mobile connect to make that. Try to be more specific on what is behind LOA4.
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">Wait for IGov WG conclusions, according to a LOA4 profile. IGov document covering highest level assurance.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">Keep it open for now
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">#42: pcr as login hint: I would vote to close this issue. In the next version Mobile Connect Profile will support MODRNA login_hint_token.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">Pcr, a concept of MC (personal customer reference). No more needed since MC supports the LHT.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">#43: phishing: I am really no expert on phishing. John should take a look at it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">Session highjacking is more appropriate.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">#61: OpenAPI respresentation: Still waiting for Nat’s reply here.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D">à</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D"> Bjorn to ping Nat on this.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">
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